[Freerdp-devel] libfreerdp.so.0

2011-06-21 Thread riedochs
Hi, i installed freerdp on my machine running kubuntu 10.04 LTS. When i try to start from console, i get this error message: xfreerdp: error while loading shared libraries: libfreerdp.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory During install i saw no error. What can i do?

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/21/2011 02:15 PM, Marc-André Moreau wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Otavio Salvador > mailto:ota...@ossystems.com.br>> wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 15:06, Marc-André Moreau > mailto:marcandre.mor...@gmail.com>> > wrote: > > I have just proposed hiring a law

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Marc-André Moreau
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Otavio Salvador wrote: > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 15:06, Marc-André Moreau > wrote: > > I have just proposed hiring a lawyer as a way to resolve this conflict, > how > > about we wait until Peter replies to that? As I said, we can keep going > on > > forever like t

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Otavio Salvador
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 15:06, Marc-André Moreau wrote: > I have just proposed hiring a lawyer as a way to resolve this conflict, how > about we wait until Peter replies to that? As I said, we can keep going on > forever like this, since none of us is a lawyer. If we all agree to get a > lawyer in

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Marc-André Moreau
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Otavio Salvador wrote: > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 14:39, Marc-André Moreau > wrote: > > Otavio: > > Please do not take this as an opportunity to come back on the decision of > > choosing the Apache license. This has been discussed already, and there's > no > > way

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Otavio Salvador
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 14:39, Marc-André Moreau wrote: > Otavio: > Please do not take this as an opportunity to come back on the decision of > choosing the Apache license. This has been discussed already, and there's no > way we're backing off at this point. You both are trying to convince me; t

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Marc-André Moreau
Otavio: Please do not take this as an opportunity to come back on the decision of choosing the Apache license. This has been discussed already, and there's no way we're backing off at this point. On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Otavio Salvador wrote: > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 14:29, Gerry Reno

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/21/2011 01:34 PM, Otavio Salvador wrote: > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 14:29, Gerry Reno wrote: > ... > >>> This is the first commit found in our GIT repository and it is still >>> present in more then 30 files around the code. This can be find using >>> git blame in every file. >>> >>> So th

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Marc-André Moreau
Hi Peter, Both of us have remained quiet while others keep fighting, but I don't think it is necessary to continue this way. Here's what I propose: Since none of us are real lawyers, we can go on like this forever. I will work on getting the necessary funding for hiring a real lawyer, who will c

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Otavio Salvador
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 14:29, Gerry Reno wrote: ... >> This is the first commit found in our GIT repository and it is still >> present in more then 30 files around the code. This can be find using >> git blame in every file. >> >> So this is still rdesktop code. >> > For which the authors have ag

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/21/2011 01:21 PM, Otavio Salvador wrote: > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 13:53, Gerry Reno wrote: > ... > >>> The point here is not if it is good or not but if it is possible or >>> not to change license without Cendio's agreement. I think it is not. >>> >> I don't get why you say this.

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Otavio Salvador
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 13:53, Gerry Reno wrote: ... >> The point here is not if it is good or not but if it is possible or >> not to change license without Cendio's agreement. I think it is not. > > I don't get why you say this. > > If the Cendio code has been removed from the new codebase then i

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/21/2011 12:43 PM, Otavio Salvador wrote: > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:46, Marc-André Moreau > wrote: > >> Going back to actual facts, the announcement of the license change >> corresponds with a sudden increase in interest towards the project. >> I have received a lot of highly positive f

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Otavio Salvador
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:46, Marc-André Moreau wrote: > Going back to actual facts, the announcement of the license change > corresponds with a sudden increase in interest towards the project. > I have received a lot of highly positive feedback regarding the license > change: companies involved

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Marc-André Moreau
Going back to actual facts, the announcement of the license change corresponds with a sudden increase in interest towards the project. I have received a lot of highly positive feedback regarding the license change: companies involved in this field obviously prefer Apache over GPL, that's what I ca

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/21/2011 11:21 AM, Adilson Oliveira wrote: > Em 21-06-2011 12:02, Gerry Reno escreveu: > > >> If he has some specific complaint, let's see it. What code, what file? >> > Let's calm down and try not get sucked into that. As you said yourself > nobody wins. I have contact with Peter for

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Adilson Oliveira
Em 21-06-2011 12:02, Gerry Reno escreveu: > If he has some specific complaint, let's see it. What code, what file? Let's calm down and try not get sucked into that. As you said yourself nobody wins. I have contact with Peter for about 6 years (he may not remember that) and he was always been hon

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/21/2011 10:51 AM, Otavio Salvador wrote: > This doesn't mean they cannot put someone in court, does it? > > That's something that can happen to any project, at any time. And it's a very rare thing indeed. It's enormously expensive to successfully prosecute a case. I've been involved in

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Adilson Oliveira
Em 21-06-2011 11:51, Otavio Salvador escreveu: > This doesn't mean they cannot put someone in court, does it? And who said the suit would be open there? Let's say Cendio decided to go after a developer who reside in USA? In that case that would be USA law. []s Adilson.

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Otavio Salvador
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:51, Gerry Reno wrote: > The original author of the codebase is one of the authors who has agreed > to the new license. > > All other works were based on this work. > > As such in this particular instance it does not matter so much that > people have touched the original

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Otavio Salvador
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:48, Marc-André Moreau wrote: >> The questio is: which law? It varies from country to country. > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but Cendio AB is based in > Sweden: http://www.cendio.com/aboutus/contact/ > When I think of "Sweden" and "copyright" in the same sentence, I'm thin

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/21/2011 10:15 AM, Adilson Oliveira wrote: > Em 21-06-2011 11:08, Gerry Reno escreveu: > > >> Many of these have had to excise some portions of code for authors >> who did not want their contribution in the commercial offering. >> >> And once you have excised that code and have a clean code

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Otavio Salvador
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:29, Gerry Reno wrote: > No, the burden of proof is on the entity that is claiming there was a > license violation.  Not the other way round. > > And the courts are fairly lenient with new codebases.  You can look at > any number of examples.  SCO's failed lawsuit against

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Marc-André Moreau
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Adilson Oliveira wrote: > Em 21-06-2011 11:17, Jürgen Lüters escreveu: > > > My post was a reaction toward Peters post. He claimed that a clean room > > implementation is the only way to replace the gpl based software parts. > > The law does not require this. The

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Adilson Oliveira
Em 21-06-2011 11:17, Jürgen Lüters escreveu: > My post was a reaction toward Peters post. He claimed that a clean room > implementation is the only way to replace the gpl based software parts. > The law does not require this. The law, and the technical experts > reviewing this, expecting a differe

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Adilson Oliveira
Em 21-06-2011 11:08, Gerry Reno escreveu: > Many of these have had to excise some portions of code for authors > who did not want their contribution in the commercial offering. > > And once you have excised that code and have a clean codebase you can > make any further modifications you wish to t

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/21/2011 10:21 AM, Otavio Salvador wrote: > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:08, Gerry Reno wrote: > >> On 06/21/2011 09:56 AM, Otavio Salvador wrote: >> >>> I have some friends that are from GNU and it does matter if the code >>> has been changed using a previous code as reference. It is a

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Otavio Salvador
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:08, Gerry Reno wrote: > On 06/21/2011 09:56 AM, Otavio Salvador wrote: >> >> I have some friends that are from GNU and it does matter if the code >> has been changed using a previous code as reference. It is a difficult >> stuff to be discussed in jury but it can happen.

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Andreas Kotes
Hello, * Otavio Salvador [20110621 15:54]: > It seems that the only way to solve this is Cendio and their people > allowing us to change license. or stick with GPLv2 or later ... > Start from scratch seems stupid for me. it would be. Andreas -- Andreas Kotes - co...@c-base.or

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Jürgen Lüters
Am Dienstag, den 21.06.2011, 10:56 -0300 schrieb Otavio Salvador: > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 07:13, Jürgen Lüters > wrote: > > Copyright law does protect implementations only, not ideas nor > > algorithms. Implementations do manifest itself in terms of sourcecode. > > As long a the sourcecode (the

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/21/2011 09:56 AM, Otavio Salvador wrote: > > I have some friends that are from GNU and it does matter if the code > has been changed using a previous code as reference. It is a difficult > stuff to be discussed in jury but it can happen. > > The only safe way to avoid this is to reconstruct t

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Otavio Salvador
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:59, Andreas Kotes wrote: > or stick with GPLv2 or later ... Yes; GPLv2 is better due the patents clause of GPLv3. -- Otavio Salvador                             O.S. Systems E-mail: ota...@ossystems.com.br  http://www.ossystems.com.br Mobile: +55 53 9981-7854        

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Otavio Salvador
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 07:13, Jürgen Lüters wrote: > Copyright law does protect implementations only, not ideas nor > algorithms. Implementations do manifest itself in terms of sourcecode. > As long a the sourcecode (the implementation) is different everything is > ok. The implementation is not d

[Freerdp-devel] Black Duck IP Assessment of FreeRDP (fwd)

2011-06-21 Thread Jürgen Lüters
Hi, My name is Jürgen. I am not a lawyer but a public certified IT expert in Germany. I have served in copyright cases several times as a technical expert (welte versus router manufacturers) and others. Copyright law does protect implementations only, not ideas nor algorithms. Implementations do

[Freerdp-devel] rdpdr seems to be broken (at least for 2008 r2 sp1 )

2011-06-21 Thread Aljoscha Vollmerhaus
Hi, i´m having a little trouble with the rdpdr option again. Whenever i try to upload larger files to my Win 2008 R2 SP1, the CPU load on my machine jumps to 100% while freerdp spits out an endless stream of "SSL_ERROR_WANT_WRITE" and doesn´t react to input anymore until i kill it from another sh