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Thanks Bruce! I was not aware of this basic design decision.

If that is the case, will freesurfer disregard manual corrections to try to 
force inclusion of the hippocampus?

I am using freesurfer to make cortical models for use with epilepsy surgery, 
and as the MTL is a common implant target, having the pial surface respect  
this structure is important.

Aaron

> On Apr 17, 2022, at 9:59 AM, Fischl, Bruce <bfis...@mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hi Aaron
>  
> We explicitly exclude amygdala/hippocampus from the surface models since they 
> aren’t neocortical. Hippocampus of course has some internal structure that 
> could be modeled that way (and has been), but it is pretty tough to do 
> without significantly higher res data than we usually require and would 
> require a different algorithm than the pial surface one
>  
> Cheers
> Bruce
>  
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> Subject: [Freesurfer] pial surface vs aseg in MTL
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> Hi-
>  
> A recurring issue with my recons is that the pial surface excludes the 
> hippocampal formation and associated MTL grey matter structures.  A typical 
> image is attached.
>  
> <image001.png>
>  
> Aseg has clearly captured the location of these structures correctly, as 
> indicated by the coloring in freeview, 
> so I'm wondering: does freesurfer not use the aseg results when constructing 
> the pial surface?  If not, can it be made to do so? Is there any workaround 
> other than manual correction of each pial surface?
>  
> Interestingly, I have never seen freesurfer exclude the ventral midbrain (or 
> thalamus), though it seems to be in an analogous situation.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Aaron
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