Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface editing

2017-08-25 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Michelle the wm segmentation is kind of irrelevant - it's the ?h.white surfaces that matter (and maybe not even those if you only care about subcortical things) cheers Bruce On Fri, 25 Aug 2017, Michelle VanTieghem wrote: Hi Bruce,  I got this to work, but we are still having the same pr

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface editing

2017-08-25 Thread Michelle VanTieghem
Hi, As a related question, we have been using FSL 5.3. I would like to use LME methods. I noticed that FSL 5.3 "Allows processing of subjects with single time point through the longitudinal stream to include them without bias into statistical analysis (LME)." but the Matlabs LME tools are only men

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface editing

2017-08-25 Thread Michelle VanTieghem
Hi Bruce, I got this to work, but we are still having the same problem wth over-inclusion of pial matter in the white matter segmentations even when using skullstrip from other packages (AFNI , FSL, ANTs). I am mainly interested in the subcortical volumes, and I want to do a longitudinal analysi

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface editing

2017-08-09 Thread Bruce Fischl
are you sure you created the brainmask with -rl orig.mgz? It should have the same dimensions afterwards. On Wed, 9 Aug 2017, Michelle VanTieghem wrote: -bash-4.1$ mri_info orig.mgz Volume information for orig.mgz           type: MGH     dimensions: 256 x 256 x 256    voxel sizes: 1., 1.0

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface editing

2017-08-09 Thread Michelle VanTieghem
-bash-4.1$ mri_info orig.mgz Volume information for orig.mgz type: MGH dimensions: 256 x 256 x 256 voxel sizes: 1., 1., 1. type: UCHAR (0) fov: 256.000 dof: 0 xstart: -128.0, xend: 128.0 ystart: -128.0, yend: 128.0

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface editing

2017-08-09 Thread Bruce Fischl
can you send us the output of mri_info on orig.mgz and brainmask.mgz created with the -rl flag? And also send us the full screen output of the command that fails? thanks Bruce On Wed, 9 Aug 2017, Michelle VanTieghem wrote: Hi,  I originally used  mri_convert orig.mgz afni_stripped_volume.b

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface editing

2017-08-09 Thread Michelle VanTieghem
Hi, I originally used mri_convert orig.mgz afni_stripped_volume.brik brainmask.mgz and I re-did it using the -rl flag as you recommended. it did not influence anything, same problem. I'd appreciate any trouble shooting tips. Thanks, M On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 5:45 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote: > w

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface editing

2017-08-07 Thread Bruce Fischl
what viewer did you check in? If not freeview, look at it in freeview On Mon, 7 Aug 2017, Michelle VanTieghem wrote: Hi,  After checking the images in the viewer, it appears that 001.mgz and brainmask.mgz are in the correct orientation, but brain.mgz (created by freesurfer) is rotated 90 degre

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface editing

2017-08-07 Thread Bruce Fischl
what was your mri_convert command line? It should be something like mri_convert -rl orig.mgz afni_stripped_volume.brik brainmask.mgz cheers Bruce On Mon, 7 Aug 2017, Michelle VanTieghem wrote: Hi Bruce,  Here is what I did. For each subject: a) used the original (non-skull stripped) brain

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface editing

2017-08-07 Thread Michelle VanTieghem
Hi, After checking the images in the viewer, it appears that 001.mgz and brainmask.mgz are in the correct orientation, but brain.mgz (created by freesurfer) is rotated 90 degrees. The dimensions of the images don't match either. 001.mgz and brainmask.mgz are: dim1 219 dim2 268

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface editing

2017-08-07 Thread Michelle VanTieghem
Hi Bruce, Here is what I did. For each subject: a) used the original (non-skull stripped) brain for the 001.mgz file as input - located in the Subnum/mri directory b) used mri_convert to get the afni skull-stripped brains and renamed them "brainmask.mgz" , located in the Subnum/mri directory. c) T

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface editing

2017-07-18 Thread Bruce Fischl
no, you don't use brainmask as input, you just put it in the subject's mri dir. recon-all should then recognize that it is different than brainmask.auto.mgz, assume it has been manually edited, and preserve those edits On Tue, 18 Jul 2017, Michelle VanTieghem wrote: Hi,  Yes, I am trying to u

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface editing

2017-07-18 Thread Michelle VanTieghem
Hi, Yes, I am trying to use skull stripping from another package, since -gcut option did not work on our data for appropriate skull stripping, and as a result there is too much pial matter included as white matter. a) Is brainmask.mgz an appropriate input file for recon-all -all? for example, sho

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface editing

2017-07-12 Thread Bruce Fischl
I think if you convert the afni's skull stripping to .mgz format and put it in mri/brainmask.mgz we will recognize that it is different from brainmask.auto.mgz and use it instead cheers Bruce On Wed, 12 Jul 2017, Michelle VanTieghem wrote: Hi, I am just following up on my previous question.

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface editing

2017-07-12 Thread Michelle VanTieghem
Hi, I am just following up on my previous question. The -gcut does not appear to make any difference on our skull stripping. I also saw that you can change flags for watershed option. Do you recommend this? If so, how would you implement this on freesurfer output that was already run? We achieve

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface editing

2017-07-04 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Michelle yes, you can try putting already stripped data through, or I think if you convert the afni skull stripped volume to $subject/mri/brainmask.mgz recon-all should recognize that it is different from the auto stripping and use it instead cheers Bruce On Tue, 4 Jul 2017, Michelle Van

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface editing

2017-07-04 Thread Michelle VanTieghem
Hello, I am just following up on this question. Thanks! Michelle On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 4:46 PM, Michelle VanTieghem < michelle.vantieg...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Bruce, > > The -gcut does not appear to make any difference on our skull stripping. I > also saw that you can change flags for water

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface editing

2017-06-29 Thread Bruce Fischl
sure, you can use whatever format we support - we will recognize it by the extension (e.g. .nii or .nii.gz). cheers Bruce On Tue, 27 Jun 2017, Michelle VanTieghem wrote: Hi Bruce,  The -gcut does not appear to make any difference on our skull stripping. I also saw that you can change flags f

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface editing

2017-06-27 Thread Michelle VanTieghem
Hi Bruce, The -gcut does not appear to make any difference on our skull stripping. I also saw that you can change flags for watershed option. Do you recommend this? If so, how would you implement this on freesurfer output that was already run? We achieve fairly good skull stripping with this data

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface editing

2017-06-12 Thread Bruce Fischl
-gcut should do the trick cheers Bruce On Mon, 12 Jun 2017, Michelle VanTieghem wrote: Hi,  Thanks for your response. Maybe I am missing something, but I haven't been able to find any documentation about how to use graph cuts skull stripping in the freesurfer pipeline. can you please advise? T

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface editing

2017-06-12 Thread Michelle VanTieghem
Hi, Thanks for your response. Maybe I am missing something, but I haven't been able to find any documentation about how to use graph cuts skull stripping in the freesurfer pipeline. can you please advise? Thanks, Michelle On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 2:48 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote: > Hi Michelle > > y

Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface editing

2017-06-12 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Michelle you can try using the graph cuts skull stripping. It is more aggressive and more likely to remove more skull/dura (and also to remove some brain) cheers Bruce On Mon, 12 Jun 2017, Michelle VanTieghem wrote: Hello,  We have assessed freesurfer output for 160+ brains, and about 5

[Freesurfer] Pial surface editing

2017-06-12 Thread Michelle VanTieghem
Hello, We have assessed freesurfer output for 160+ brains, and about 50% have poor segmentation of pial matter that includes too much skull. Manual edits and re-running does work to improve the problem, but is very time/labor intensive for so many scans. I saw on the freesurfer wiki that you can

Re: [Freesurfer] pial surface editing

2013-08-30 Thread Louis Nicholas Vinke
uis, MO  63110 Email: mha...@wustl.edu From: Francesco Siciliano Date: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 12:36 PM To: "Harms, Michael" Subject: RE: [Freesurfer] pial surface editing My main issue is that the edits I make to brain.finalsurfs.manedit.mgz are not being incorporated into the reconfig

Re: [Freesurfer] pial surface editing

2013-08-28 Thread Harms, Michael
From: Francesco Siciliano <sici...@nyspi.columbia.edu> Date: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 12:36 PM To: "Harms, Michael" <mha...@wustl.edu> Subject: RE: [Freesurfer] pial surface editing My main issue is that the edits I make to brain.finalsurfs.manedit.mgz are not being incorpo

Re: [Freesurfer] pial surface editing

2013-08-28 Thread Harms, Michael
4-747-6173 St. Louis, MO  63110 Email: mha...@wustl.edu From: Francesco Siciliano <sici...@nyspi.columbia.edu> Date: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 11:01 AM To: "freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Subject: [Freesurfer] pial surface editing

[Freesurfer] pial surface editing

2013-08-28 Thread Francesco Siciliano
Hello, I am having a few issues with editing the pial surface in freeview. It appears as though the edits I make to the brainmask are not being taken into account when I re-run recon-all. I work on a MacBook Pro and have been using "shift+click" to delete voxels at a brush value of 1 and then s

[Freesurfer] pial surface editing

2013-08-27 Thread Francesco Siciliano
Hello, I am having a few issues with editing the pial surface in freeview. It appears as though the edits I make to the brainmask are not being taken into account when I re-run recon-all. I work on a MacBook Pro and have been using "shift+click" to delete voxels at a brush value of 1 and then s