[Freeswitch-users] Open source Java based inbound event socket library available

2009-06-18 Thread paul.d...@gmail.com
http://versafon.com/versafonweb/Software.jsp Essentially it's a wrapper around inbound socket interface, not all events supported yet, and not all event parameters/variables. It's multi threaded and scaled well in testing. We offer commercial support and development for FreeSwitch as well.

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Open source Java based inbound event socket library available

2009-06-20 Thread Raffaele P. Guidi
uhm... nice! But why not MPL license (the same as freeswitch)? On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 04:06, paul.d...@gmail.com wrote: > http://versafon.com/versafonweb/Software.jsp > > Essentially it's a wrapper around inbound socket interface, not all > events supported yet, and not all event parameters/vari

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Open source Java based inbound event socket library available

2009-06-20 Thread Diego Viola
Because they probably want a stronger copyleft license? I prefer the GPL because of that reason. On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Raffaele P. Guidi < raffaele.p.gu...@gmail.com> wrote: > uhm... nice! But why not MPL license (the same as freeswitch)? > > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 04:06, paul.d...

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Open source Java based inbound event socket library available

2009-06-20 Thread paul.degt
Yes, that's one of the reasons. Another point is that GPL v.3 is defined more clearly from legal perspective, at least from our legal adviser point of view. Diego Viola wrote: > Because they probably want a stronger copyleft license? > > I prefer the GPL because of that reason. > > On Sat, Jun 2

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Open source Java based inbound event socket library available

2009-06-20 Thread Brian West
I still say why not MPL or at the very least MPL/GPL? /b On Jun 20, 2009, at 9:37 AM, paul.degt wrote: > Yes, that's one of the reasons. Another point is that GPL v.3 is > defined > more clearly from legal perspective, at least from our legal adviser > point of view. > > Diego Viola wrote: >>

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Open source Java based inbound event socket library available

2009-06-20 Thread paul.degt
As I mentioned the decision was influenced by our legal adviser. And it probably can be relicensed as MPL/GPL, but why? My understanding is that for an end user which wants to use a free open source software there should be absolutely no difference between GPL and MPL. But if any one has has any

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Open source Java based inbound event socket library available

2009-06-20 Thread Brian West
There actually are issues between the GPL and MPL :P /b On Jun 20, 2009, at 11:12 AM, paul.degt wrote: > source software there should be absolutely no difference between GPL > and > MPL. ___ Freeswitch-users mailing list Freeswitch-users@lists.free

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Open source Java based inbound event socket library available

2009-06-20 Thread paul.degt
Not unless you combining GPL and MPL code in one binary, which I find highly improbable in case of FreeSwitch. And even in this case there seems to be a workaround: "However, MPL 1.1 has a provision (section 13) that allows a program (or parts of it) to offer a choice of another license as well.

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Open source Java based inbound event socket library available

2009-06-20 Thread Anthony Minessale
License is less important in a socket interface lib. Its not really a big deal what license it is guys. However, I did create a BSD ESL lib distributed with FS to make sure nobody would have any license problems connecting to our stuff. If you don't like this lib consider using swig on the wrapper

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Open source Java based inbound event socket library available

2009-06-20 Thread Raffaele P. Guidi
Well, GPL for a library is a dead end. Nobody will use it unless for open source projects. I would consider any possible choice before using it. Regards, Raffaele On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 18:12, paul.degt wrote: > As I mentioned the decision was influenced by our legal adviser. And it > probab

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Open source Java based inbound event socket library available

2009-06-20 Thread paul.degt
That's rather bold statement and indicates lack of knowledge on the subject . I would advise you to look at http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-faq.html on GPL information. In fact proprietary applications can use/modify GPL software with no limitations or obligations towards authors. The

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Open source Java based inbound event socket library available

2009-06-20 Thread Raffaele P. Guidi
Right, fair and easy to deal with. And also to NOT deal with - as would any developer working in a commercial company. Again, I would consider any possible choice before using it. Regards, Raffaele On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 22:15, paul.degt wrote: > That's rather bold statement and indicates l

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Open source Java based inbound event socket library available

2009-06-20 Thread Anthony Minessale
We don't need to argue licenses the topic is way too subjective. To each his own. Let's concentrate on the code and the cool features we can make in the future. On Jun 20, 2009 4:00 PM, "Raffaele P. Guidi" wrote: Right, fair and easy to deal with. And also to NOT deal with - as would any develop

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Open source Java based inbound event socket library available

2009-06-20 Thread Steve Underwood
paul.degt wrote: > Yes, that's one of the reasons. Another point is that GPL v.3 is defined > more clearly from legal perspective, at least from our legal adviser > point of view. > While the legal status of MPL is widely considered to be vague, is GPL 3 any better? GPL 2 is pretty sound, and

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Open source Java based inbound event socket library available

2009-06-20 Thread paul.d...@gmail.com
I have Fortune 1000 clients myself, and frankly speaking in real world they don't even care what type of license the free stuff has. Why? Simple. Because 90% of the time these companies buy commercial support and being a commercial customer it's very easy for them to get a commercial version of