Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment

2009-03-09 Thread Anthony Minessale
Thank you, I appriciate that you get some benifits from our efforts. We only recommend irc because it's an easy-to-access multi user chat where we can put all of the people who need help in the same room in real time so they can help each other and we can help them. I tried not to get annoyed

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment

2009-03-07 Thread Karl Vesterling
Ben; Can you imagine me injecting a question about a SIP profile into that conversation?? Don't be bashful, just jump right in: If I'm going into #freeswitch at 11pm at night, it's probably because I really need some help with some problem I've run into after hours. Can you imagine me

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment

2009-03-07 Thread Luis F Urrea
Same thing happened to me in regards IRC, I had not used it for years before getting into FS, but as a total newbie I can say that IRC is really good to get things going quickly and all those No rocket science questions we have. I have had people helping realtime looking at pastebin's and stuff,

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment

2009-03-06 Thread Saeed Ahmed
We need a poll. a) List b) Forum (b) ___ Freeswitch-users mailing list Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment

2009-03-06 Thread Anthony Minessale
Did anybody notice my email from yesterday that shows how there already is a forum on voip-info that is linked to our homepage and nobody uses it? We can't take this poll until we have a list of volunteers who would manage any new online resources. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 5:31 AM, Saeed Ahmed

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment

2009-03-06 Thread Michael Collins
Did anybody notice my email from yesterday that shows how there already is a forum on voip-info that is linked to our homepage and nobody uses it? We can't take this poll until we have a list of volunteers who would manage any new online resources. Let's end the torment of this thread by

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment

2009-03-06 Thread Rupa Schomaker
a) List On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 5:31 AM, Saeed Ahmed saeedahmad1...@gmail.comwrote: We need a poll. a) List b) Forum (b) ___ Freeswitch-users mailing list Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org

[Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment

2009-03-05 Thread J Mann/Harry
No, I've yet to contribute anything, I barely have my system doing what I want. But I REALLY love Freeswitch and I want to see it BURY Asterisk. (Windows server user here) I've been struggling with the XML configs, trying to figure out what does what and where! That's fine, I'm used to it. What

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment

2009-03-05 Thread Mathieu Rene
The wiki explains all that and allows all that, whats wrong with IRC? Come and ask questions if you don't understand, you'll get your answers quicker than complaining about the lack of forum. Math On 5-Mar-09, at 5:14 AM, J Mann/Harry wrote: No, I've yet to contribute anything, I barely have

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment

2009-03-05 Thread Ken Rice
Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment The wiki explains all that and allows all that, whats wrong with IRC? Come and ask questions if you don't understand, you'll get your answers quicker than complaining about the lack of forum. Math On 5-Mar-09, at 5:14 AM, J Mann/Harry

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment

2009-03-05 Thread Michael Jerris
Much more than an archive, nabble makes a full embeddable forum that is linked to the mailing list. We will be embedding this in our webpage soon for the best of both worlds, a forum and a mailing list without the additional overhead of having to monitor 2 things. Mike Ken Rice-3 wrote:

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment

2009-03-05 Thread Gregory Boehnlein
I hate forums. Forums suck. They are a pain in the ass to search and find things. I prefer the mailing list and the Wiki. Can we please keep it that way? It is really easy to find stuff via Nabble and the Wiki. ___ Freeswitch-users mailing list

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment

2009-03-05 Thread Giovanni Maruzzelli
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Michael Jerris m...@jerris.com wrote: Much more than an archive, nabble makes a full embeddable forum that is linked to the mailing list.  We will be embedding this in our webpage soon for the best of both worlds, a forum and a mailing list without the

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment

2009-03-05 Thread Ben Holtsclaw
I agree with Harry. I do not like the mailing list. Those that do like the mailing list always advocate Nabble. For those that advocate that solution, do you even realize that you can't post on Nabble unless you are subscribed to the mailing list? I am also not a fan of IRC. Before I came upon

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment

2009-03-05 Thread Brian West
I have been trying to push all the social talk into #freeswitch-social to keep #freeswitch on topic.. sometimes after hours in the US it gets a bit off topic. I'm usually alive in the channel till around 11PM+ CST most days. I take questions and answer questions at all hours if I'm

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment

2009-03-05 Thread Mathieu Rene
The bot even takes people's question and keeps them in list so when someone that knows shows up he can answer it, thats the ~take-a-number option... On 5-Mar-09, at 12:16 PM, Brian West wrote: I have been trying to push all the social talk into #freeswitch- social to keep #freeswitch on

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment

2009-03-05 Thread Ben Holtsclaw
The problem with take-a-number is what if I'm not there when someone can answer it? On 3/5/2009 at 12:19 PM, Mathieu Rene mrene_li...@avgs.ca wrote: The bot even takes people's question and keeps them in list so when someone that knows shows up he can answer it, thats the ~take-a-number

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment

2009-03-05 Thread Arnaldo de Moraes Pereira
Besides #freeswitch-social and #openzap, there are other channels related to the project. List: http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Main_Page#Community_and_Support On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Mathieu Rene mrene_li...@avgs.ca wrote: The bot even takes people's question and keeps them in list so

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment

2009-03-05 Thread Michael Jerris
On Mar 5, 2009, at 12:03 PM, Ben Holtsclaw wrote: I agree with Harry. I do not like the mailing list. Those that do like the mailing list always advocate Nabble. For those that advocate that solution, do you even realize that you can't post on Nabble unless you are subscribed to the

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment

2009-03-05 Thread Anthony Minessale
Ok, SO? We should make a forum? See this one? http://www.voip-info.org/boards/index.php?b=6 Yah, that one has been around for many months and nobody maintains it. We do have a link to it on our homepage but nobody reads it so, there is a dilemma here right? IRC is for sure more useful of a

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment

2009-03-05 Thread Brian West
Well you can always shoot an email to the mailing list... or wait for someone that can answer it.. which reminds me we really need people to volunteer to help out on the IRC channel so we have skilled people able to answer questions 24/7, I personally cover 12-16 hours a day most of the

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment

2009-03-05 Thread Arnaldo de Moraes Pereira
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Brian West br...@freeswitch.org wrote: Well you can always shoot an email to the mailing list... or wait for someone that can answer it.. which reminds me we really need people to volunteer to help out on the IRC channel so we have skilled people able to answer

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment

2009-03-05 Thread Gregory Boehnlein
You guys should setup 1-900-FREESWITCH w/ a $1 / minute charge.. :) ___ Freeswitch-users mailing list Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment

2009-03-05 Thread Kristian Kielhofner
A bunch of telephony geeks and a 1900 number - what could go wrong? Anyways, I too don't understand why people prefer forums. I follow dozens of mailling lists and a half a dozen e-mail addresses without ever leaving my mail client. My mail client happens to be gmail, btw: - Much more

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment

2009-03-05 Thread Michael Jerris
On Mar 5, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Kristian Kielhofner wrote: A bunch of telephony geeks and a 1900 number - what could go wrong? Anyways, I too don't understand why people prefer forums. I follow dozens of mailling lists and a half a dozen e-mail addresses without ever leaving my mail client.

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment

2009-03-05 Thread mszlazak
kristian.kielhof...@gmail.com To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Sent: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:39 pm Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment A bunch of telephony geeks and a 1900 number - what could go wrong? Anyways, I too don't understand why people prefer forums. I follow

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment

2009-03-05 Thread Jason White
mszla...@aol.com mszla...@aol.com wrote: If as you say people prefer forums then that's the nature of the target market and controlling markets can be very difficult. So you go with the market to succeed. Most free software/open-source people I've encountered prefer mailing lists and don't

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment

2009-03-05 Thread David Dan
Web forums are like the wild west of the internet. They offer nothing that a mailing list and good wiki can't handle. Just go take a look at the trixbox forums. The last thing you want it for someone that is looking into freeswitch for the first time, to come across something like this (The

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment

2009-03-05 Thread mszlazak
@lists.freeswitch.org Sent: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 5:26 pm Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Please end the torment Web forums are like the wild west of the internet.? They offer nothing that a mailing list and good wiki can't handle. Just go take a look at the trixbox forums. The last thing you want