Re: [ft-devel] A review of ttfauthint by designer of Siri

2012-02-11 Thread James Cloos
va == vernon adams v...@newtypography.co.uk writes: va Can anyone tell me what the equivalent is of 'forced auto-hinting on' va under fontconfig settings? is it 'hinting' false, 'Autohinter' true, va hintstyle 'full' ? autohint=true should override everything else. I use a config snippet which

Re: [ft-devel] A review of ttfauthint by designer of Siri

2012-02-10 Thread Werner LEMBERG
It's rather that code is missing which checks that segments from different outlines have enough vertical separation. I have to investigate yet whether this is a problem in my bytecode or a general problem with the FreeType autohinter. It's allways been noticeable to me that when i

Re: [ft-devel] A review of ttfauthint by designer of Siri

2012-02-10 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Is it actually possible to specify the x-height threshold independently of the total height threshold? I never could seem to find that in the code! It's a two-step approach (all line numbers from aflatin.c refer to the current git): 1. Determine the x-height scaling factor using the

Re: [ft-devel] A review of ttfauthint by designer of Siri

2012-02-10 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Vern, thanks for the images. My point is that the freetype autohinter should (if possible) render x-heights cap heights the same as the freetype bytecode interpreter. Though from your comment below, i think you are saying it's not a good idea to force freetype to do that. Well, `force'

Re: [ft-devel] A review of ttfauthint by designer of Siri

2012-02-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Does TTfautohint allways snap upwards, to the pixel edge above? rather than snapping to the pixel edge below, even if the pixel edge below is closest? It depends. For x-heights, the current code slightly favors rounding up (using 0.375 instead of 0.5 as the threshold). I will soon add an

Re: [ft-devel] A review of ttfauthint by designer of Siri

2012-02-09 Thread vernon adams
On 09/02/12 15:17, Werner LEMBERG wrote: So, in theory, it could be possible to add a feature to allow the user to set the threshold ? :) Not only in theory! We are going right now to implement that. Have a look at the `autohinter-properties' branch in the FreeType repository. Thats

Re: [ft-devel] A review of ttfauthint by designer of Siri

2012-02-09 Thread vernon adams
On 09/02/12 20:49, vernon adams wrote: It's allways been noticeable to me that when i manually hint fonts on Windows GDI, the font at small pt sizes renders on Freetype sytems with the x-height and Caps height lower than under Windows GDI. Therefore it makes sense that the reverse happens when

Re: [ft-devel] A review of ttfauthint by designer of Siri

2012-02-09 Thread vernon adams
On 10/02/12 03:07, Infinality wrote: Hi Erik! Distortion measurement and outline optimization is what's needed. Not sure if this is easier, but I've thought that the easiest way conceptually would be to force at least 1 pixel between any two horizontal stems when available. Like, if you have

[ft-devel] A review of ttfauthint by designer of Siri

2012-02-08 Thread Mostafa Hajizadeh
Thought this might help: http://lettersfromsweden.se/ttfautohintingreview/ ___ Freetype-devel mailing list Freetype-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/freetype-devel

Re: [ft-devel] A review of ttfauthint by designer of Siri

2012-02-08 Thread vernon adams
disclaimer - it's an article written by the guy who accused me of piracy, so my views may be biased :P For sure though, ttfautohint cannot better well executed manual hinting for fonts being rendered on windows GDI OS's. Would be more informational to see GDI grayscale and Directwrite

Re: [ft-devel] A review of ttfauthint by designer of Siri

2012-02-08 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Thought this might help: http://lettersfromsweden.se/ttfautohintingreview/ Thanks! Werner ___ Freetype-devel mailing list Freetype-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/freetype-devel

Re: [ft-devel] A review of ttfauthint by designer of Siri

2012-02-08 Thread vernon adams
On 08/02/12 21:53, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:10 PM, vernon adams v...@newtypography.co.uk mailto:v...@newtypography.co.uk wrote: disclaimer - it's an article written by the guy who accused me of piracy, so my views may be biased :P Isn't it a compliment coming

Re: [ft-devel] A review of ttfauthint by designer of Siri

2012-02-08 Thread Werner LEMBERG
I was testing Arabic webfonts on XP the other day and it was so pathetic. It's just, you can't get good rendering. Period. Hehe. Arabic is not supported (yet). The x-height issue should definitely be addressed though. I will. And the file size thing is one of the first things I keep