Re: [FRIAM] Introducing Santa Fe Complex: 632 Agua Fria ( was: some thoughts on the educational aspect of 632)

2007-12-06 Thread Raymond Parks
Folks, I do have one suggestion regarding the "Cultural" section of the paper. If the SFC is going to include uniform tunics (see 2), then only the first-time students/participants should be assigned red tunics. I want a gold tunic so I can shill for PriceLine in the name of complexity. ObCom

Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM and causality

2007-12-06 Thread Russell Standish
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 01:23:00PM -0700, Marcus G. Daniels wrote: > > > > And in that > > sense, even if I can't write a formula for "tying one's shoes", I can > > still _learn_ how to tie shoes. Further, I can use the inaccurate > > ("bad") formulas for how to tie one's shoes as a way to actuall

Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM and causality

2007-12-06 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
> > And in that > sense, even if I can't write a formula for "tying one's shoes", I can > still _learn_ how to tie shoes. Further, I can use the inaccurate > ("bad") formulas for how to tie one's shoes as a way to actually learn > how to tie shoes. Even further, I can _teach_ others how to tie th

Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM and causality

2007-12-06 Thread Glen E. P. Ropella
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Russell Standish on 12/05/2007 04:14 PM: >> It blocks learning about what we >> can't write formulas for, though, so I think it should be among the >> first things to go. >> > > What we cannot "write formulas for" (by which I mean "find > compressible

Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM and causality

2007-12-06 Thread Phil Henshaw
Glen, Excellent! If they're honestly derived from physical things, like network maps, say, every model is going to be both a 'bad' model and a helpful one. The principle comes to this complex statement, yes, but I think also to a simple one that to understand anything you need multiple measures.