Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

2018-12-26 Thread Nick Thompson
Glen, I am having a terrible time keeping up with my own thread here. (Fools rush in, etc.) But I will add a little larding where I can, below. Thanks for your work, here. Thanks to Renee for loaning you to us. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Bi

Re: [FRIAM] Pondering the slang Adulting

2018-12-26 Thread Alfredo Covaleda Vélez
Adulting sounds to me like the age at which you must take statins to prevent a cardiovascular disease. If it's the case I just arrived to be in. On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 6:27 PM Gillian Densmore wrote: > I got to talking with dad today and I hadn't though about how the slang > adulting might have

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

2018-12-26 Thread Frank Wimberly
That too but that's Trump the person. --- Frank Wimberly My memoir: https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly My scientific publications: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 Phone (505) 670-9918 On Wed, Dec 26, 2018, 4:18 PM Gillian Densmore

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

2018-12-26 Thread Gillian Densmore
Huh I'd have thought Donald was more like these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxNX6ozCty8 On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:27 PM Frank Wimberly wrote: > The Trump presidency: > > https://youtu.be/Pviuk_WuwmM > > -- > Frank Wimberly > > My memoir: > https://www.amazon

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

2018-12-26 Thread Gillian Densmore
Tom, also on twitter from AndNow this (?) the day of the shut down Mich Michaneal described Donald as a 'roogue president while we have no government...' i haven't a clue if that'll translate to action though. The DOJ has said many times something to the effect even they don't know if charges mad

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

2018-12-26 Thread Gary Schiltz
"Trump supporters are not individualists, they are just people trying to recover privilege they *didn’t earn *and now see slipping away. " Reminds me of a radio commentator I used to listen to, either Mike Malloy or Peter Werbe, I don't remember which. He always said that George W. Bush was "born

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

2018-12-26 Thread Gillian Densmore
Here's an older one https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/07/19/lawmakers-urge-gop-act-more-assertive-check-against-president/491663001/ On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:44 PM Marcus Daniels wrote: > David writes: > > > > “And it would serve "the opposition" to get a clue about

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

2018-12-26 Thread Marcus Daniels
David writes: “And it would serve "the opposition" to get a clue about the fact that the vast majority of Trump supporters do not suffer from racism, sexism, 'genderism', "me-first-ism," etc. Instead recognize that their primary affliction is individualism - and even libertarian-ism (despite so

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

2018-12-26 Thread Frank Wimberly
The Trump presidency: https://youtu.be/Pviuk_WuwmM -- Frank Wimberly My memoir: https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly My scientific publications: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 Phone (505) 670-9918 On Wed, Dec 26, 2018, 2:31 PM Tom J

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

2018-12-26 Thread Tom Johnson
You wrote: "... the RNC's media department on twitter has said they're "considering" declaring Donald unfit for 'his current position' . " Do you have the link(s) to that statement? Tom Tom Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

2018-12-26 Thread Jochen Fromm
I'm especially interested in understanding the different kind of *- isms, individually and collectively, like Erich Fromm. Narcissism on a collective level of a whole nation is similar to nationalism. It is the belief that the own nation is superior to the rest and far better than others. I beli

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

2018-12-26 Thread Gillian Densmore
FWIW the RNC's media department on twitter has said they're "considering" declaring Donald unfit for 'his current position' . One can only guess when/If they'll make good . I didn't even know it was a thing that thing the can do. I have ton of concerns about this whole messmy uncomplicated min

Re: [FRIAM] Pondering the slang Adulting

2018-12-26 Thread Nick Thompson
Owen, I think this is a wonderful example of the coming together of two meanings. The idea of dangling some bait for some high=minded poor fool to bite, and the idea of lurking in a cave while doing it. Language is less like a genealogy and more like the threads of a delta, where rivulet

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

2018-12-26 Thread uǝlƃ ☣
I always insist on discussing politics and religion in polite company, despite the ancient wisdom to avoid them. Over this holiday season, I've had the opportunity to witness a common thread in "their" argument(s): "In my experience ..." Perhaps it stood out, first, because of our haranguing

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

2018-12-26 Thread Marcus Daniels
Well, I’ll do my best not to smile as he sucks their blood dry! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 26, 2018, at 10:16 AM, Prof David West mailto:profw...@fastmail.fm>> wrote: Mueller will disclose nothing except what everyone already knows - Trump and his circle are immoral opportunists - totally corr

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

2018-12-26 Thread Frank Wimberly
Trump's approval rating over time. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/ --- Frank Wimberly My memoir: https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly My scientific publications: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 Phone (505)

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

2018-12-26 Thread Prof David West
Mueller will disclose nothing except what everyone already knows - Trump and his circle are immoral opportunists - totally corrupt and completely blind to those occasions they cross the thin line of absolutely technical legality (however much they violate the spirit of law) into the indictable and

Re: [FRIAM] Pondering the slang Adulting

2018-12-26 Thread Owen Densmore
I'm catching up on old email. Trolling is lovely although a horrid but sometimes worthy pursuit. I like this: troll1 /trōl/ *noun* noun: *troll*; plural noun: *trolls* 1. a mythical, cave-dwelling being depicted in folklore as either a giant or a dwarf, typically having a very ugly appeara

Re: [FRIAM] Congress votes to make open government data the default

2018-12-26 Thread Owen Densmore
I noticed this: While the United States is not the first or even the second democracy to pass an open data law – France and Germany have that distinction Have we gathered any information as to the impact of open data laws? It's a massive change so maybe we can detect changes. -- Owen On W

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

2018-12-26 Thread Gillian Densmore
I am skeptical Donald will resign. On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 10:39 AM Marcus Daniels wrote: > Steve writes: > > > > "Democracy is the tyranny of the majority over the minority" > > > > The majority elected Hillary Clinton. > > > > Marcus > > > > > ==

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

2018-12-26 Thread Marcus Daniels
Steve writes: "Democracy is the tyranny of the majority over the minority" The majority elected Hillary Clinton. Marcus FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http:

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

2018-12-26 Thread Steven A Smith
Jochen - A little less, tongue-in-cheek: Thanks for the positive thoughts... and I think you can add to your list of "isms" we need to understand 'more better' to avoid giving them more power over us are other abstractions like "democracy" and "capitalism".    I grew up worshiping the latter

[FRIAM] Congress votes to make open government data the default

2018-12-26 Thread Ron Newman
https://e-pluribusunum.org/2018/12/21/congress-made-open-government-data-the-default-in-the-united-states/ Ron Newman, M.S., M.M.E. Founder, IdeaTreeLive.com Knowledge Modeling Piano Blog ===

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

2018-12-26 Thread Steven A Smith
I prefer the model of Twain's "history doesn't repeat itself, it rhymes"... It appears that the great poem of life has lapsed into a riff of thug-rap (taking names and popping caps)...  which could go on for quite a while... apparently there are a lot of folks who want/need that kind of angry/

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

2018-12-26 Thread Marcus Daniels
Dear Pollyanna, It will end and we’ll all learn an important lesson? Whew, I was worried there for a minute! Thanks, Marcus From: Friam on behalf of Jochen Fromm Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Date: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 at 6:53 AM To: The Friday Mornin

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

2018-12-26 Thread Gary Schiltz
I wish I could be as positive about the end of "Trumpism", but I too well understand the people who support him, and their support is the manifestation of a very ugly streak that runs through the American psyche. I think Trump will survive Mueller and get re-elected in 2020. Happy new year to you,

[FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

2018-12-26 Thread Jochen Fromm
Merry christmas and a happy new year 2019! I hope Mueller will finish his report in 2019 and I assume president Trump will either resign or be impeached like Nixon, since the House belongs now to the democrats (Did you know "Mueller" is the German version of "Miller" btw? As you know a miller is