[FRIAM] Multiple articles of interest: Isis September 2019

https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/toc/isis/2019/110/3#/toc/isis/110/3 FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archiv

Re: [FRIAM] means of production take 2

Glen - > I think we're converging. But I don't understand what it is about my language > that you don't like. I can't say I "don't like" what you have said, but rather that I believe you are focused on different aspects of the conversation than I am, but in the spirit of honestly trying to underst

Re: [FRIAM] flattening -isms

Hi, Russ, Oh, gosh. You have always done right by me, and now I have to confess a sin. I have accurately traced the word back to the Latin word for "fart". However, in order to be more colorful, I left out an intermediate step in the etymology

[FRIAM] Coolness! Google's Stadia Project is on the way

Here's a review of the project if anyone is interested. https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/18/20970297/google-stadia-review-gaming-streaming-cloud-price-specs-features-chrome-pixel https://www.wired.com/review/google-stadia/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Stadia It's worth noting that 4k gam

Re: [FRIAM] means of production take 2

I think we're converging. But I don't understand what it is about my language that you don't like. I believe I've described, albeit more abstractly, the same thing you're describing. But my attempts to repeat back to you what I think you're saying have apparently failed. Your comment about "mea

Re: [FRIAM] Collapse of the Information Ecosystem/Noosphere

Media Ecology is a 30-40+ year old concept/discipline. High-profile researchers are - Neil Postman: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=neil+postman+media+ecology&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart - Walter Ong: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.625.5142 -

Re: [FRIAM] means of production take 2

Glen - I'm not sure we are converging, though I sense we are both trying to. > OK. Yes, I'm slightly familiar with the Marxist origins of the term. And yes, > I'm wasting e-ink and your time talking about things, here, when I could go > read a bunch of Marx and Marx commentary. But even in what

[FRIAM] While trying a simulator called Kergal Space Program got to wondering: why not something pod shaped or like a airplain?

While trying a simulator called Kergal Space Program got to wondering: why not something pod shaped or like a airplain? There's a (strangely) fun simulator I've been messing around with called KBS Kerbal Space Program. It tries to be (somewhat) accurate. for getting things into space. You can simul

[FRIAM] Collapse of the Information Ecosystem/Noosphere

Glen - I chose not to respond specifically to the link/point you offered in my last response because I felt this was a (useful) tangent and wanted to address it more directly.  I do appreciate the analogy drawn between our physical ecosystem and what the author calls the Information ecosystem and

Re: [FRIAM] means of production take 2

OK. Yes, I'm slightly familiar with the Marxist origins of the term. And yes, I'm wasting e-ink and your time talking about things, here, when I could go read a bunch of Marx and Marx commentary. But even in what little I've read, there remains a conflation along the same lines we've covered, he

Re: [FRIAM] So disjointed

AND to whom they are important. n Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Barry MacKichan Sent: Tuesday, No

Re: [FRIAM] post you seem to have missed from FRIAM

No. Indeed, your message came through … as our president would say … perfect. N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ Fr

Re: [FRIAM] post you seem to have missed from FRIAM

Nick - I'm suspect that my own habits around indentation, /italicization/, etc.   are not explicit enough to make things clear enough as to who is speaking to whom.   I also tend to trust/defer to my mailtool (thunderbird) which *seems* to add very limited HTML markup of included sections.  I do t

Re: [FRIAM] means of production take 2

Glen - Thanks for circling around on this one.   I had not forgotten the frayed thread I left with you on this, but as you suggest, might be lacking the tools/perspective to explain.  I take this to mean that your questions are requiring me to think deeper/differently. 1) I *don't* think I am usi

Re: [FRIAM] So disjointed

It is interesting to speculate as to how much of the disjointedness of our discussions/threads here are the result of lossy communications at the remailer/spam-filter level. After trying various spam-filter tools and heuristics back in the day when they first emerged, I settled on using Thunderbir

Re: [FRIAM] post you seem to have missed from FRIAM

Nick, I was a baby and then a toddler during WWII but I feel much the same as you do. I do like fast cars, however. Frank --- Frank Wimberly My memoir: https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly My scientific publications: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/

Re: [FRIAM] post you seem to have missed from FRIAM

Hi, Dave, I had seen your post below before, but because you computer woke-folk won’t use HTML, I can never tell who’s talking to whom about what. And also, this business of having two computers, neither of which work, is driving me ever crazier than I usually am. I find myself typing a r

[FRIAM] means of production take 2

To contribute to my spam score, I'll try again to suss out what is meant by owning the means of production. Here it is again: The collapse of the information ecosystem poses profound risks for humanity https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/19/the-collapse-of-the-information-ecosyste

Re: [FRIAM] flattening -isms

I looked for some scientific evidence of this, but failed to find it. Can you clue me in to the sources showing it's made in the brain? On 11/19/19 7:10 AM, Prof David West wrote: DMT is present, manufactured, in the human brain ...

Re: [FRIAM] So disjointed

Aha! Maybe the singularity is here, and Google AI spam identifier knows better than humans what communications are really important. --Barry On 18 Nov 2019, at 23:31, Roger Critchlow wrote: I wondered why the discussions on friam had been so incomplete lately. Gmail was storing most of them i

Re: [FRIAM] flattening -isms

The Monomyth is definitely "widely found." Campbell talks about the hero with 1001 faces. There are roughly 18,000 different cultures identified (historic and prehistoric). I have no idea what percentage have a hero myth. DMT experiences are "spookily" similar. You do have a very strong sense th