Re: [FRIAM] So what IS trolling: WAS oxytocin, again

Trolling, not that deep. on one end: being smart ass just to be a smart---unintinally being a smartassjust being a dick. For example:Someone on FB said they're having a coke sale to raise money for their doughters school. It went as well as you'd expect. Many pe

Re: [FRIAM] Acid epistemology - restarting a previous conversation

Nick first, then rest of list, I sense I might be making a pest of myself, if so, gently tell me to take my curiosities elsewhere. Let me begin with a long quote from Huxley: "Istigkeit — wasn't that the word Meister Eckhart like to use? Is-ness. The Being of Platonic philosophy except that Pl

Re: [FRIAM] Acid epistemology - restarting a previous conversation

It's not pesky for me in the slightest. I'm *very* interested. I haven't contributed because it's not clear I have anything to contribute. Maybe I can start with a criticism, though. It's unclear to me why you (or anyone) would delicately flip through crumbling pages of philosophy when there ar

Re: [FRIAM] So what IS trolling: WAS oxytocin, again

Thanks for recasting the unintentional troll. It happens all the time, everywhere. And as you point out, both the troller *and* the victims can be unaware. We can do more to align the dynamic triggers of the trolled with those of the troll. On 3/5/20 12:56 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote: > Uninten

Re: [FRIAM] Acid epistemology - restarting a previous conversation

Dave, Was my memory of my then 7 year-old daughter confusing "oxytocin" and "oxymoron" an instance of trolling or the kind of experience you were alluding to in "He could never, poor fellow, have seen a bunch of flowers shining with their own inner light and all but quivering under the pre3ssure

[FRIAM] JHU covid-19 dashboard

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[FRIAM] trolling, 'hidden' to 'touch' and 'contact'

Perhaps coincidentally ... or maybe cause I'm triggered ...: Do Atoms Ever Touch? https://youtu.be/P0TNJrTlbBQ They go 'round and 'round about the definitions and *finally* arrive at the conclusion that "the analogy breaks down". So, the answer to "are emotional states hidden" is "no", but

Re: [FRIAM] Acid epistemology - restarting a previous conversation

Dave - As for me, I'm not irritated with your keeping these discussions going.  I *am* irritated with the larger (cross-domain, national/global) discussion of "Truthiness" and the various bimodal fallacies introduced thereby. Science and the Scientific Method, for example, have built into them a

Re: [FRIAM] Acid epistemology - restarting a previous conversation

Dave, et al., As long as any idea proposed is taken modestly seriously by the proposer, I am interested in it. You are not the only person at the table that speaks of experience beyond experience, so I definitely I have to take it seriously, no matter HOW crazy it drives me. N N

Re: [FRIAM] Acid epistemology - restarting a previous conversation

Glen, I write and think about Peirce, for instance, because his work connects several disparate threads in my own work which seemed unrelated until I read him. He unifies me. Talking to you guys helps me digest all of that. Nick Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psycho

Re: [FRIAM] trolling, 'hidden' to 'touch' and 'contact'

> Perhaps coincidentally ... or maybe cause I'm triggered ...: > > Do Atoms Ever Touch? > https://youtu.be/P0TNJrTlbBQ > > They go 'round and 'round about the definitions and *finally* arrive at the > conclusion that "the analogy breaks down". So, the answer to "are emotional > states hidden

[FRIAM] Devs

I just watched the first episode of Devs on Hulu/FX... primarily because Mary and I are fans of Nick Offerman.  I was more satisfied than usual with it's representation of tech and science, though such has gotten better and better over the decades.

Re: [FRIAM] trolling, 'hidden' to 'touch' and 'contact'

Re: machine learning and explanation. Steve, If you don't have enough reading to do I recommend "Causation, Prediction, and Search" by Glymour, Spirtes, and Scheines. Implementation of algorithms based on their work was my last job before moving to New Mexico. Those machine learning algorithms

Re: [FRIAM] Devs

Ha, love the Faraday cage and the cold take on absolution. Several nice touches in the first episode! From: Friam on behalf of Steven A Smith Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Date: Thursday, March 5, 2020 at 8:24 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffe