Re: [FRIAM] Behavior?? The Lost Lardings

Hi, Dave, FWIW, see below. Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of Prof David West Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 10:38

Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM: The Comic Edition: April 2020

I had a different perspective on controversies related to first LANL transition after interacting with Doug here and some other occasions. It was amazing he got away with the things he did – such a person would have been disappeared during my tenure. (I narrowly escaped on a few occasions

Re: [FRIAM] from 5/15 virtual FRIAM

When I was in highschool I read a book about the Great Books by Mortimer J Adler. He said that it's easy to define truth but hard to decide what's true. According to him a proposition is true if it asserts what is the case. An analytic statement. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,

Re: [FRIAM] from 5/15 virtual FRIAM

Hmmm. I am afraid I may have underemphasized something in my discussions of “truth”. The Pragmatic Maxim (which is what Jon refers to), is Consider what effects, that might conceivably have practical bearings, we conceive the object of our conception to have. Then, our conception of these

Re: [FRIAM] from 5/15 virtual FRIAM

I really like this, and it strengthens my belief that we ought to be assembling and publishing a book of FRIAM Gems. Nick Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University thompnicks...@gmail.com

[FRIAM] Who gains and who loses

Sorry, but this was too rich. From the general overview blurb https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/16/us/live-coronavirus-news-cases-deaths.html Defying state rules, Atwater, Calif., declares itself a ‘sanctuary city’

Re: [FRIAM] from 5/15 virtual FRIAM

Jon- While reading your essay I had several associations. I recently read the assertion that in developing axiomatic systems and proving the entailed theorems mathematicians are writing for God as the authority. So mathematics, from that point of view is a conversation with God. At the other

Re: [FRIAM] from 5/15 virtual FRIAM

Disclaimers: 1. TLDR Warning 2. These opinions will be poorly founded and are subject to change. Dave, You write: `Nick raised the issue of being contrarian with regards science and could get no one to admit to anything beyond ignoring doctor's orders.` Questions like the one Nick posed fill me

Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM: The Comic Edition: April 2020

Did Doug hire them or what? --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sat, May 16, 2020, 6:11 PM Stephen Guerin wrote: > There is a group of freelance Ukranian Comic Artists. We never know which > one is working on what >

Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM: The Comic Edition: April 2020

There is a group of freelance Ukranian Comic Artists. We never know which one is working on what https://www.upwork.com/l/ua/comic-artists/ On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 12:57 PM wrote: > We don’t know, do we? > > > > One of us, presumably. Although, perhaps, somebody who does not know us > all

Re: [FRIAM] the end of the pandemic

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/without-a-vaccine-herd-immunity-wont-save-us/ From: Friam on behalf of "thompnicks...@gmail.com" Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Date: Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 2:28 PM To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group'

Re: [FRIAM] from 5/15 virtual FRIAM

Dave has read it and it has a faulty premise. Prior to the invention of agriculture and the generation of a surplus that had to be managed (storage, preservation, later distribution) the only "specialist" role in the cultures and societies of the time was that of Shaman. The very first

Re: [FRIAM] from 5/15 virtual FRIAM

Before Utah, it was the mobs. The first time the Feds stepped in was forced conscription of almost every able bodied man - just as they were beginning their emigration to Utah (the Mormon Battalion who were marched to Mexico before being released from service). Statehood was predicated on armed

Re: [FRIAM] intension/extension

I may be completely misunderstanding but is intention what the actor intends while intension us what his action entails? The two may coincide or overlap sometimes? --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sat, May 16, 2020, 12:09 PM wrote: >

Re: [FRIAM] the end of the pandemic

Time for me to pack up and get out? N Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam On Behalf Of Jon Zingale Sent: Saturday, May 16,

Re: [FRIAM] the end of the pandemic

Dave, Today markedly begins tourism season here in Santa Fe. Over the last month, I have been going for long walks downtown around the plaza. I prefer it to the crowded walks along the bicycle paths and until today, all the business were closed and the park relatively empty. Today, I counted

Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM: The Comic Edition: April 2020

We don't know, do we? One of us, presumably. Although, perhaps, somebody who does not know us all that well. Nick Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University thompnicks...@gmail.com

Re: [FRIAM] from 5/15 virtual FRIAM

Steve, Have you ever read David Sloan Wilson’s Darwinian Cathedral? The idea here is that religions originate as systems for the capture and equitable distribution of non-zero gains arising from community action and become corrupted when some individuals capture the system for their own

Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008)

Jon, It came from my watching of that luscious tornado video that Frank sent us. I thought I got from that video a model of a super cell which involved two helically shaped pathways of air, one warm, moist, cyclonic and ascending and the other cooler, dryer anti-cyclonic and

Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM: The Comic Edition: April 2020

Who dod the comic? Ed ___ Ed Angel Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab) Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico 1017 Sierra Pinon Santa Fe, NM 87501 505-984-0136 (home) an...@cs.unm.edu

Re: [FRIAM] intension/extension

Yes. I am struggling with your use of the word closure, but I think you have it as I would have it. Philosophers (at a wild guess) seem to identify intensions with the ineffable mental states that (known only to the actor) guide the actors actions, or, even more narrowly, with the

Re: [FRIAM] from 5/15 virtual FRIAM

Hi David, As I review to myself the very little I know about LDS history, it seems to me that the church suffered more at the hands of mobs than it did of governments. Is that true? And if so, where does the distaste for governments arise? And how is a system in which some few elders can

Re: [FRIAM] intension/extension

Jon, In my world, intenSionality arises within the frame of intenTional utterances (or actions?) in which a state of affairs is framed within an a verb of explicit or implied mentation. Or perhaps, when an action is directed toward a goal. The hall mark of such intenTional utterances

Re: [FRIAM] from 5/15 virtual FRIAM

> > Dave West writes: Thirdly, we talked about charity and the gap between personal and > institutional. Contrary to Steve, who noted he grew up absent any kind of > religious charitable context, I grew up in a culture where personal > charity, awareness, and mutual aid was ubiquitous and

Re: [FRIAM] Behavior??

Hi, David, While I have great admiration for Ryle, and use his notion of levels of action gratefully, I think he and Geertz are just dead wrong here in their premise. I don't think anybody who was familiar with eye movements would ever take a wink for a blink. But the basic point is

Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008)

Nick, In chat on Friday, you mentioned a research project involving two helices (or possibly nested tori), with distinct thermal properties and which exist at the core of a tornado. Would you mind posing the problem here so that I and possibly other members of the community can consider it? Jon

Re: [FRIAM] intension/extension

Nick, >From the Stanford Encyclopedia article: "Although the meaning of the word ‘intentionality’ in contemporary philosophy is related to the meanings of such words as ‘intension’ (or ‘intensionality’ with an *s*) and ‘intention,’ nonetheless it ought not to be confused with either of them. On

[FRIAM] from 5/15 virtual FRIAM

Topics arose on Friday that I would be interested in pursuing if anyone else shares the interest We briefly talked about story and evocation versus representation I claimed that a words and pictures can be placed on a continuum between representational and evocative. A journal article being

Re: [FRIAM] intension/extension

Nick, The *tension* in the discussion was mostly between two subtly different words: Intentionality as found in the work of Bretano and intensionality as found in the work of Church. While

Re: [FRIAM] the end of the pandemic

Here’s what I expect will probably happen. The PANDEMIC will be declared over, like Mission Accomplished with W. There will be a slower burn until fall, and then it will accelerate again. But people will be acclimate to the death rate, like they acclimate to gun violence.Unemployment

Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM: The Comic Edition: April 2020

Thanks, Ed. n Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam On Behalf Of Angel Edward

Re: [FRIAM] the end of the pandemic

Steve, Yes the subject line is click-bait. In the body of the message I made a distinction between the disease pandemic and the perceived PANDEMIC. The latter will go away whether or not the disease does. The metrics for the latter would include increased traffic to websites like the

Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM: The Comic Edition: April 2020

So H. G. Wells is behind all this Morlock stuff. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sat, May 16, 2020, 7:49 AM Frank Wimberly wrote: > I found this via Google: > > Eloi - Wikipedia > > The Eloi live

Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM: The Comic Edition: April 2020

I found this via Google: Eloi - Wikipedia The Eloi live a banal life of ease on the surface of the Earth while the Morlocks live underground, tending machinery and providing food, clothing, and .. The word Eloi is a synonym for Eli as far as I know. The God

Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM: The Comic Edition: April 2020

We just did a video on Morse code for 3rd-5th graders in the SFPS. The beginning of the message is “The Eloi live a banal life of ease on the surface of the Earth” Ed __ Ed Angel Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab) Professor Emeritus of