Re: [FRIAM] GPT-3 and the chinese room

2020-07-27 Thread thompnickson2
Doug, Dog do joy; why not computers? n Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam

Re: [FRIAM] GPT-3 and the chinese room

2020-07-27 Thread Frank Wimberly
Nick, That's really funny. It reminds me of a long complex joke that ends, "I wouldn't send a knight out on a dog like this." Frank --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Mon, Jul 27, 2020, 10:11 PM wrote: > Hi Frank, > > > > Well, yes. R

Re: [FRIAM] GPT-3 and the chinese room

2020-07-27 Thread thompnickson2
Hi Frank, Well, yes. Roughly, “if it quacks like a duck…”*. But we have to understand “behavior” in a pretty broad sense. The rules of the game are, define “thinking” in some way that satisfies everybody in the room, once everybody agrees, look and see if the entity in question “thin

Re: [FRIAM] GPT-3 and the chinese room

2020-07-27 Thread doug carmichael
I imagine playing chess, or go, with a computer. As I play I have a very enlivening experience of playing. The computer seems to have no such thing. For me, in my engagement, “Every neuron is listening to the mutter of the crowd.” Jerry Lettvin, MIT. If The computer goes on to win it has not

Re: [FRIAM] GPT-3 and the chinese room

2020-07-27 Thread Frank Wimberly
Smart computer (program). Nick, is the behaviorist position that if it behaves as though it thinks than it thinks? --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Mon, Jul 27, 2020, 8:28 PM Alexander Rasmus wrote: > There's also a lot of stuff that i

Re: [FRIAM] GPT-3 and the chinese room

2020-07-27 Thread Alexander Rasmus
There's also a lot of stuff that isn't poetry. He generates Dwarf Fortress patch notes in the Misc section. There's even a section where GPT-3 argues that it doesn't really understand anything (bold at the start is a shortened version of the prompt): "*AI will never be able to truly* think for the

Re: [FRIAM] GPT-3 and the chinese room

2020-07-27 Thread glen
Excellent. Thanks! I'd seen the link to Gwern from Slate Star Codex. But I loathe poetry. Now that you've recommended it, I have no choice. 8^) On July 27, 2020 6:32:15 PM PDT, Alexander Rasmus wrote: >Glen, > >Gwern has an extensive post on GPT-3 poetry experimentation here: >https://www.gwern

Re: [FRIAM] GPT-3 and the chinese room

2020-07-27 Thread Alexander Rasmus
Glen, Gwern has an extensive post on GPT-3 poetry experimentation here: https://www.gwern.net/GPT-3 I strongly recommend the section on the Cyberiad, where GPT-3 stands in for Trurl's Electronic Bard: https://www.gwern.net/GPT-3#stanislaw-lems-cyberiad There's some discussion of fine tuning inpu

Re: [FRIAM] GPT-3 and the chinese room

2020-07-27 Thread uǝlƃ ↙↙↙
I think I read somewhere that width is 2048. What's that? Like a short paper ... half an in-depth paper? An Atlantic article, maybe? I know they delayed the release of GPT-2 and haven't released GPT-3 because of the abuse potential. But it would be very cool to prime it with a long expression, g

Re: [FRIAM] Internet unreliable since monsoon began

2020-07-27 Thread Steve Smith
N > > Dear Local Congregation, > >   > > Is this a me-thing or a system-thing? > Likely the combination of wet/humid conditions and some questionable connections/splices/wiring from your service provider.   Out were I am lots of people are still on twisted pair copper put in originally for voice-on

Re: [FRIAM] Internet unreliable since monsoon began

2020-07-27 Thread jon zingale
both? -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.

[FRIAM] Internet unreliable since monsoon began

2020-07-27 Thread thompnickson2
Dear Local Congregation, Is this a me-thing or a system-thing? N Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .

Re: [FRIAM] How is a vector space like an evolutionary function?

2020-07-27 Thread uǝlƃ ↙↙↙
Now I'm even more worried that epiphenomena is not the right concept, even in it's (I think) less common Pyrrhonian form. To the extent that the phenomenal layer can be treated as (at least somewhat) independent of its generative layer or, further, the extent to which the outer layer might "stru

Re: [FRIAM] How is a vector space like an evolutionary function?

2020-07-27 Thread jon zingale
I probably should have added an abstract :) What I am getting at here is that *free* object constructions build higher-order structures relative to those they are built from and relative to the target of their associated right-adjoint (often the category of sets via a forgetful functor). That these

Re: [FRIAM] How is a vector space like an evolutionary function?

2020-07-27 Thread uǝlƃ ↙↙↙
Hm. I'm not sure epiphenomena is the right word. When you say "these [e.g. sorted token] properties were nowhere to be found in the underlying field", I'm not sure that's quite true. There's a sense in which each token is grouped by addition already 4+1=4+1+4+1 ... All you (seem to) have done is