Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

My partner, Sarah, remarked that the abstract is remarkable in that it seems parallel (for her) to how she experiences our world today. The book is on my reading list. Thank you. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Appli

Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

The large dog park on the bay near where I live brings all kinds of people that have at least one good quality.Mostly people are accommodating about how dogs behave or misbehave up to some limit. But there was this guy a couple days ago when it was dark all day from smoke, when almost no o

Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

My 56 year-old daughter smokes cigarettes. She is the head Latin teacher at an elite boarding school in upstate New York. I ask her why she smokes and I point out that most Latin teachers don't. It may be classist but it seems to me that very few professionals smoke. She says, "Believe me, I kn

Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

This idea of places where people of different walks “encounter each other” — or even better have something meaningful to do with each other, has an interesting role at a certain period of social change in Japan. From a friend and colleague: https://www.amazon.com/Bonds-Civility-Aesthetic-Politic

Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

Yes to Ikegami's "Bonds of Civility"and her other book "Taming of the Samurai". Carl On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 4:14 PM David Eric Smith wrote: > This idea of places where people of different walks “encounter each other” > — or even better have something meaningful to do with each other, has an >

Re: [FRIAM] Freudian Wish Correspondence

Well, it's all falling-behind to me, and it feels rotten. And it leads to my making mistakes in my Digital Manners, for which I then have to apologize, and that feels even more rotten. Perhaps I need to take a break. Thanks for the headsup, Glen, Nick Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor

Re: [FRIAM] Freudian Wish Correspondence

It's important to realize that particular conversation was NOT a set of posts to a mailing list but emails between 4 explicit recipients. Falling behind on posts to a forum is VERY different from falling behind in one's private letters. On September 13, 2020 1:11:51 PM PDT, thompnicks...@gmail.

Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

Hanauer might remember. I doubt that anyone else knows. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 1:17 PM wrote: > Frank, > > > > What was the other? > > > > N > > > > Nicholas Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and

Re: [FRIAM] Freudian Wish Correspondence

I simply don't have time to read such a long document because of the necessity of dealing with/reading other things (I am raising an eight year-old). I did skim it however and I have one comment. When I was about five my best friend and I came across a rattlesnake in Estancia, New Mexico. Nobody

Re: [FRIAM] Vote early, Vote often...

Steve writes: < He claims that many are self-identified "Retired LEO" who "moved up there because they are tired of all the XXs and YYs and the snowflake liberal P*s", etc. (XX and YY => pick your racist name). > Was Reinoehl one of those? Maybe they’d like that more. Marcus - . -

[FRIAM] Vote early, Vote often...

Dave - > Steve - the problem is unambiguously defining exactly which group of > people we are talking about. It is the same problem that constantly > arises in discussions about political bases and the constituents > thereof, versus the radical fringe elements. I agree... > > Your "Righty" friends

[FRIAM] Freudian Wish Correspondence

Dear Phellow Phriammers, EricC has demanded to know why I have not pitched into the discussion of Hazard-learning and Development. Mostly, I am 82 and I just cannot keep up with you guys. Do any of the rest of you know what its like to fall behind in a friam conversation??!! It's like climbi

Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

Frank, What was the other? N Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam On Behalf

Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

Yes, but …. We don’t fetishize “achievement” and we keep taking money and educational opportunity off the top and pouring it in at the bottom, not because we have empathy for those poor people but because we recognize that there-but-for-the-grace-of-God go we. N Nicholas Thompson

Re: [FRIAM] flu versus COVID

> It's also important to note that conservatives tend to feel/see fear > more prominently than those open to new experiences. Marcus' point > about reactive grievance is an indicator. It's not the conservative > tendency to be afraid that generates the grievance culture, though. > Conservative fea

Re: [FRIAM] flu versus COVID

All So... I have to suggest to the locals, see 350santafe.org , everyone else see 350.org for a local chapter. There's a lot of work to do and lots of skill and expertise required. Lurking Robert On 9/13/20 12:29 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: Dave wri

Re: [FRIAM] SavantX in SFe

Good finds... thanks On 9/13/20 9:07 AM, glen∉ℂ wrote: > Nothing for sure. This recent patent seems indicative: > > David Linus Ostby > https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C48&q=david+ostby&oq=d#d=gs_qabs&u=%23p%3DqplV7M8W2xwJ > > > But Ostby's also presented on graph search: > http

Re: [FRIAM] flu versus COVID

Dave writes: < Those who will not / cannot accept four more years will take to the streets in mass protest. Unfortunately, it seems like those protests cannot occur any longer without arson and property destruction. And guess what the response to that will be. > At this rate, it will all be ig

Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

Agreed. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 12:21 PM Marcus Daniels wrote: > Yes, but so what? If there is a lottery system for top universities (per > the abstract), how is that substantially different from just viewi

Re: [FRIAM] flu versus COVID

Steve - the problem is unambiguously defining exactly which group of people we are talking about. It is the same problem that constantly arises in discussions about political bases and the constituents thereof, versus the radical fringe elements. Your "Righty" friends, fully prepared for the Zo

Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

Yes, but so what? If there is a lottery system for top universities (per the abstract), how is that substantially different from just viewing individuals a cluster of particles in the expanding universe? It’s one kind of luck or another. From: Friam On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly Sent: Sunday

Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

More luck. Luck isn't the only thing but it's important. Nick Hanauer says that years ago he had a couple million to invest and he was presented with a couple of venture capital opportunities. He had no idea which to choose so he essentially flipped a coin. His choice was Amazon and he's now a

Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

Taking the view that success is nothing more than an outcome of a random percolation process, the individuals on the `winning' end of that percolation process are significantly different from the people that got stuck somehow. They have more skills, more knowledge, more contacts, more experien

[FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

This should do it! https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/michael-j-sandel/the-tyranny-of-m erit/ The thesis is that "meritocracy" is the cause of the fact that the us is now the least socially mobile country among the western democracies. Nick Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Pro

Re: [FRIAM] flu versus COVID

A symptom that someone is not taking an issue seriously is when they say that both sides are guilty. That's simply a cop-out. It's fine (even good) to criticize any side wrt whatever they are doing that you think merits criticism. But simply to dismiss an issue by saying that both sides are guilty

Re: [FRIAM] flu versus COVID

I guess that any political violence that results from the election won’t really compare to COVID-19. Projected deaths in the US for the end of the year are like US WWII casualties. So if people shrug off COVID 19 whats a little shooting in the streets? At least the danger can be seen. By

Re: [FRIAM] SavantX in SFe

There are a number of these logistics software companies that are doing what amounts to integer quadratic programming but cast it as a quantum or quantum ‘inspired’ optimization to discriminate from bigger players in their space. I do remember this name now so will not further comment. I thou

Re: [FRIAM] flu versus COVID

It's also important to note that conservatives tend to feel/see fear more prominently than those open to new experiences. Marcus' point about reactive grievance is an indicator. It's not the conservative tendency to be afraid that generates the grievance culture, though. Conservative fear is we

Re: [FRIAM] flu versus COVID

Dave - I am trying to take your disclaimer at face value: /Just observations, not aspirations nor convictions. / but there is something about your analysis of who will fight and who will flight that seems inverted: A) If Biden wins: flight will become the majority response of the l

Re: [FRIAM] SavantX in SFe

Nothing for sure. This recent patent seems indicative: David Linus Ostby https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C48&q=david+ostby&oq=d#d=gs_qabs&u=%23p%3DqplV7M8W2xwJ But Ostby's also presented on graph search: http://nmbdas.com/speakers/ On September 13, 2020 7:10:14 AM PDT, Steve

Re: [FRIAM] SavantX in SFe

Their IP seems to be in full-text indexing/search/patterning along the lines of Abe Lederman's Deep Web https://www.deepwebtech.com/ On 9/13/20 8:44 AM, Steve Smith wrote: > > Frank - > > Sorry... in my attempt to become "more brief" in my rattling on here, > I left a few things out I could h

Re: [FRIAM] flu versus COVID

The entire campaign, as near as I can tell, is nothing except scare the crap out of your base in order to defeat the other guy. Both sides are guilty, albeit with differences in luridness. Once you have appealed to, and convinced your side of, fear and loathing, there is no easy off-switch. Thi

Re: [FRIAM] SavantX in SFe

Frank - Sorry... in my attempt to become "more brief" in my rattling on here, I left a few things out I could have included/referenced.   Also, I've only penetrated the first layer myself. From https://www.insidequantumtechnology.com/news/savantx-partnering-with-d-wave-to-help-trucking-companies-

Re: [FRIAM] SavantX in SFe

HONE. What are the words that make up the acronym? --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 8:10 AM Steve Smith wrote: > Thinks for the extra references. I can't penetrate the brochure-speak > either... even HONE which sou

Re: [FRIAM] SavantX in SFe

Thinks for the extra references.   I can't penetrate the brochure-speak either... even HONE which sounds like yet another gussied up machine learning platform.  Of course, a great deal of the success in that domain is it's application.   I'm assuming they are stirring in some Quantum just to create

Re: [FRIAM] flu versus COVID

Barry, I do not believe I am saying anything other than IFR and CFR are often mixed up. I saw a three paragraph article in a news paper about the confusion between IFR and CFR. I then got the four numbers directly from WHO and CDC press releases. davew On Sat, Sep 12, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Barry

Re: [FRIAM] SavantX in SFe

It seems they're not trying to be a hardware company. https://www.insidequantumtechnology.com/news/savantx-partnering-with-d-wave-to-help-trucking-companies-optimizing-loads-and-driver-retention/ I found no listings in the gov funded contracts databases. But CNN lists them as a PPP recipient: htt

Re: [FRIAM] SavantX in SFe

Thanks for the link to that book! I'm unable to pierce the wall of hype around savantx. Ostby's patents are about search and training sims. My guess is they're riding a string of SBIR type funding and have convinced some brass that they can do something cool. I hope it's true and not just hype.

Re: [FRIAM] flu versus COVID

There were previous episodes. But yes. That's the recent news I mentioned to Dave. Here's the article: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/11/exclusive-trump-officials-interfered-with-cdc-reports-on-covid-19-412809 On September 12, 2020 6:35:12 PM PDT, Frank Wimberly wrote: >It has become k