Re: [FRIAM] What's in a name? MOTH to a Flame

2020-11-01 Thread thompnickson2
It’s funny that you should mention this right now, because you WEREN’T at FRIAM last week, and we spent quite a time discussing whether physicists could honestly disclaim the terms they use and the metaphors those terms imply. Eric and I were arguing that they can’t and that those metaphors no

Re: [FRIAM] What's in a name? MOTH to a Flame

2020-11-01 Thread Stephen Guerin
> Why is this coming up now?? - Some sense of urgency as I want to get your input and approval on naming while your mental faculties are still at their height ;-p - you mentioned having some regret on the name two weeks ago at FRIAM and I thought I heard you mention an alternative

Re: [FRIAM] What's in a name? MOTH to a Flame

2020-11-01 Thread thompnickson2
Yes. You are correct. That’s why the use of stupid names is so stupid. We could have used abbreviations such as UnconAltConAss (Moth) and UnconDefConAss (NasMoth), ConAltUnconAss (Tit for tat), etc. Mostly I think we should obey our nursery school teacher and “use our words”. There was a ki

Re: [FRIAM] What's in a name? MOTH to a Flame

2020-11-01 Thread thompnickson2
NiceMoth? Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam On Behalf Of Stephen Guerin Sent: Sund

Re: [FRIAM] What's in a name? MOTH to a Flame

2020-11-01 Thread Stephen Guerin
And as I look at it more closely, Nasty Moth isn't actually "MOTH" in the meaning of "My Way or Highway" as it leaves when the other agent does "My way" which is defecting also. ___ stephen.gue...@simtable.com CEO, Simtable htt

Re: [FRIAM] What's in a name? MOTH to a Flame

2020-11-01 Thread Stephen Guerin
> I think the proper name is Conditional Association Strategy Yes, I think of Conditional Association Strategy as its "genus". There's an unspecified bit in the "genome" on the conditional behavior in that name that needs to be more specific to make it a species which could be either cooperate or

Re: [FRIAM] Curmudgeons Unite!

2020-11-01 Thread jon zingale
Included is a link to the "Undivided Attention" podcast where the guest is Taiwan's Digital minister. She discusses the progress and successes that Taiwan has made in producing *digital democracy* software, implementing *radically open transparency* at the government level, and building search engi

Re: [FRIAM] What's in a name? MOTH to a Flame

2020-11-01 Thread thompnickson2
I think the proper name is Conditional Association Strategy (as opposed to a Condition Altruism Strategy. My original impulse was not .. um … prosocial. I was pissed by the extent to which the entire literature had gone down the Axelrod rat hole with its totally unnatural assumptions and

[FRIAM] What's in a name? MOTH to a Flame

2020-11-01 Thread Stephen Guerin
Nick, On a recent FRIAM you expressed mild regret on your naming of MOTH (My Way or the Highway) http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/9/2/4.html *Given a chance to rename it what were some of the options over the years? Does the list have better suggestions?* Naming may seem trivial and arbitrary bu