Re: [FRIAM] First of 2 questions

2021-08-18 Thread Gillian Densmore
lol loud clunk and smoke? this sounds like the start a steampunk mis-adventure. On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 10:09 PM Gillian Densmore wrote: > My backups are at 1 infinite loops drive aka google drive, for stuff that > I literally can't replace I keep their, and on a nice USB drive WD passport > I g

Re: [FRIAM] vax v unvax

2021-08-18 Thread David Eric Smith
Wonderful. The Morris article checks pretty much every box I would have thought to ask for. The Conclusion section is like the last 15 pages of the musical score to Oklahoma. As my first-cellist student friend once commented, half in despair: “Then you get to the finale ultimo and there’s sti

Re: [FRIAM] First of 2 questions

2021-08-18 Thread Gillian Densmore
My backups are at 1 infinite loops drive aka google drive, for stuff that I literally can't replace I keep their, and on a nice USB drive WD passport I got. a few years ago. What causes SSD to just die? is that a limitation of of read/writes as compared to hours of use (SATA)? On Wed, Aug 18, 20

Re: [FRIAM] "ZAMM"

2021-08-18 Thread Merle Lefkoff
There's been some publicity lately about enticing young people away from a tech or finance future--substituting, instead, the possibility of becoming a skilled plumber or electrician, or better yet an ecological farmer. Those are the jobs we'll perhaps need in the near future as we attempt to survi

Re: [FRIAM] vax v unvax

2021-08-18 Thread David Eric Smith
May I offer a tiny rewording to one of your sentences, Roger? Given that right now I am in a months-long redraft of a paper, which feels like having my teeth drilled, trying to say some things about the difference between what one can do with summary statistics and what one does with population-

Re: [FRIAM] "ZAMM"

2021-08-18 Thread Frank Wimberly
When will you be back here? --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, Aug 18, 2021, 9:17 PM wrote: > No. Actually I hadn’t thought of that. Too far east for those sorts of > thoughts, right now. Let’s see what David supposes. > > > > N >

Re: [FRIAM] vax v unvax

2021-08-18 Thread Frank Wimberly
Simpson's example: in a high school class females get higher grades in their classes but males get higher scores on the SAT. For both genders SAT scores and grades are positively correlated but in the whole class they are negatively correlated. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe

Re: [FRIAM] "ZAMM"

2021-08-18 Thread thompnickson2
No. Actually I hadn’t thought of that. Too far east for those sorts of thoughts, right now. Let’s see what David supposes. N Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

Re: [FRIAM] vax v unvax

2021-08-18 Thread thompnickson2
I have it as, even though the Departments of a field may favorably select female candidates in most or all department choices, there may be a bias against women over all. Or, even though selfish individuals may be selected in each and every subpopulation of a general population, altruists may b

Re: [FRIAM] "ZAMM"

2021-08-18 Thread Frank Wimberly
David can answer for himself. I think you want to lead a seminar. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, Aug 18, 2021, 9:01 PM wrote: > Gary, > > > > It would be great to hear from somebody reading it for the first time. I > am, I thin

Re: [FRIAM] vax v unvax

2021-08-18 Thread Frank Wimberly
Simpson's paradox: even though two variables might be correlated in subgroups of a population they can be negatively correlated or uncorrelated in the population. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, Aug 18, 2021, 8:51 PM Roger Critc

Re: [FRIAM] "ZAMM"

2021-08-18 Thread thompnickson2
Gary, It would be great to hear from somebody reading it for the first time. I am, I think, the only person to have read Go Set a Watchman and To Kill a Mockingbird in the order in which they were written, not the order in which they were published. I thought it gave me a unique perspecti

Re: [FRIAM] "ZAMM"

2021-08-18 Thread Gary Schiltz
It’s one I’ve always intended to read, but somehow never got around to it. I’d be interested, but need to read it soon. On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 8:46 PM wrote: > Colleagues, > > > > I wonder if Pirsig’s *Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance *was a > thing for any of you, and if you would be

Re: [FRIAM] vax v unvax

2021-08-18 Thread Roger Critchlow
Eric - No problem with the modification, I was just making noise at that point: death panels, statistical police, knowledge is oppression, and so on. I see, Morris did exactly what you were suggesting and then went on to itemize every quibble that might come up in the conclusion. I might even re

Re: [FRIAM] "ZAMM"

2021-08-18 Thread thompnickson2
David, I will gladly answer your question. But I beg your forbearance to ask you a question first? What do you take my motivations to be? I promise this isn’t a trap or any kind, even rhetorical. Nick Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com

Re: [FRIAM] "ZAMM"

2021-08-18 Thread Prof David West
dave west will be happy to do so, but would like to understand your motivation. davew On Wed, Aug 18, 2021, at 7:45 PM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote: > Colleagues, > > I wonder if Pirsig’s *Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance *was a thing > for any of you, and if you would be intereste

[FRIAM] "ZAMM"

2021-08-18 Thread thompnickson2
Colleagues, I wonder if Pirsig's Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance was a thing for any of you, and if you would be interested in pursuing a thread about it and, if so, if you would be willing to get it down off your shelf and flip through it, looking for the parts you loved and the par

Re: [FRIAM] vax v unvax

2021-08-18 Thread Prof David West
dave west does not recall making such an argument: *"people who talk about science are Scientismists, their God is Science."* Perhaps this is a straw man of something he may have said? But even that feels weird. He might feel comfortable with an assertion, ala Feyerabend, that the foundations of

Re: [FRIAM] First of 2 questions

2021-08-18 Thread Russell Standish
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 03:50:52PM -0600, Gillian Densmore wrote: > I was given a PNY brand SSD for a present  about march this year. this last > Thursday. the damn thing stopped working. As in on strike, took a dump on the > bed. And Nothing I have done will get the F'n thing back to life. > > Sy

Re: [FRIAM] vax v unvax

2021-08-18 Thread Frank Wimberly
So that's why I'm feeling uneasy as I approach 80. 😐 --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, Aug 18, 2021, 5:38 PM David Eric Smith wrote: > May I offer a tiny rewording to one of your sentences, Roger? > > Given that right now I am i

Re: [FRIAM] vax v unvax

2021-08-18 Thread David Eric Smith
This is one that it would be nice to see broken down by age and other conditions. If unvaxxed hospitalizations are a true “cross section of America” (like jury duty), whereas the vaxxed ones are mainly old or sick with something else, that would be an important variable for deriving a risk prof

Re: [FRIAM] vax v unvax

2021-08-18 Thread Jon Zingale
"S ... our house cleaner is anti-vax. My friends tell me we should fire her. I've resisted confronting her over it." Since you are asking for an opinion, I believe that abstaining from her service because you feel that your household is at risk directly or at risk of becoming a vector for the

Re: [FRIAM] First of 2 questions

2021-08-18 Thread Gillian Densmore
Any ideas for how to force this damn thing to work again? or would it make a better frisby for someone pooch. On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 3:50 PM Gillian Densmore wrote: > I was given a PNY brand SSD for a present about march this year. this > last Thursday. the damn thing stopped working. As in on

Re: [FRIAM] vax v unvax

2021-08-18 Thread Roger Critchlow
The Israeli data turned up in Andrew Gelman's blog today https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2021/08/18/coronavirus-and-simpsons-paradox-oldsters-are-more-likely-to-be-vaccinated-and-more-likely-to-have-severe-infections-so-you-need-to-adjust-for-age-when-comparing-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-p

[FRIAM] Question 2

2021-08-18 Thread Gillian Densmore
I guess it'd be a good idea to look for a new doctor the General Practicer kind: Yesterday I had a fucking awful asthma attack while talking to fam. BLUF: Called my doctors office saying: need a new inhaler, and I have been asking for them for ages. the NursePractictioner pulled a well gee the pha

[FRIAM] First of 2 questions

2021-08-18 Thread Gillian Densmore
I was given a PNY brand SSD for a present about march this year. this last Thursday. the damn thing stopped working. As in on strike, took a dump on the bed. And Nothing I have done will get the F'n thing back to life. Symptoms are that it doesn't show up in BIOS, Windows thinks it's a unformated

Re: [FRIAM] vax v unvax

2021-08-18 Thread Marcus Daniels
Another hypothesis is that they tend to be less engaged in the economy and their communities and so are thus less susceptible; smaller social networks and lower spatial density. And further they attach themselves to these crazy ideas because no one ever has the opportunity to push back except p

Re: [FRIAM] vax v unvax

2021-08-18 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
Ha! Yeah, we have other reasons to fire her, or at least suspend her. Mainly she doesn't really clean all that well ... albeit according to a couple of "Virgos" who have obsessive-compulsive tendencies anyway. I also learned today that she's a "moral intuitionist" (ala silly people like Michael

Re: [FRIAM] vax v unvax

2021-08-18 Thread Marcus Daniels
Just don't invite her back until the pandemic has become endemic. A distinction without a difference but then she can win the argument. :-) -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 12:54 PM To: FriAM Subject: [FRIAM] vax v unvax S ..

[FRIAM] vax v unvax

2021-08-18 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
S ... our house cleaner is anti-vax. My friends tell me we should fire her. I've resisted confronting her over it. But hospitals being overrun influenced me to press her a little bit. I claimed that the majority of hospitalizations are the unvaxxed. She claimed that down near her (I think c

Re: [FRIAM] argh

2021-08-18 Thread Stephen Guerin
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021, 9:05 AM wrote: > Funny that we continue to worship in those bare ruined choirs. Old issues > unsettled? Chancel culture of another's time > - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 b

Re: [FRIAM] argh

2021-08-18 Thread thompnickson2
Funny that we continue to worship in those bare ruined choirs. Old issues unsettled? n Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 9:59 AM To: friam@redfish.com Su

Re: [FRIAM] argh

2021-08-18 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
I guess we need an obituary-ist to keep track of all the dying silents and boomers. On 8/17/21 1:04 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: > And how did I miss this? > > https://science.sciencemag.org/content/373/6556/745 > > Richard Charles “Dick” Lewo