Re: [FRIAM] “Cannot connect to DNS server.

2023-05-17 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Try changing your computer's default DNS to Google DNS (8.8.8.8 / 8.8.4.4) or OpenDNS. Wait 5 mins and then try to "ping" 8.8.8.8 If the problem persists, then it's an issue specific to your computer / router connection. On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 4:01 AM Nicholas Thompson wrote: > > Any thoughts?

[FRIAM] “Cannot connect to DNS server.

2023-05-17 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Any thoughts? My wife’s Mac and my cell phone are both able to connect to the Internet. My computer is able to put in the modem. I have run the Microsoft troubleshoot protocol three times without success. Trouble chooser suggest it might be a firewall problem. I I have McAfee. Sent from my Dumb

Re: [FRIAM] Umwelten Was: Bard and Don Quixote

2023-05-17 Thread Steve Smith
Nice shout out to Cliff. I haven't talked to him in years (decades?). I was on a proposal team with him about 8 years ago and he pulled out silently near the end... I never resolved quite why but the other members of the team who were in closer contact at the time did not report any problem

Re: [FRIAM] Bard and Don Quixote

2023-05-17 Thread Steve Smith
On 5/17/23 10:47 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: There are many idiosyncrasies of me that I would just as soon not exist.  The new avatar could be the aspirational me! It seems like it might be good if we are going post-human to polyp off aspirational digital "clones" which can then try to surviv

Re: [FRIAM] Umwelten Was: Bard and Don Quixote

2023-05-17 Thread glen
Nice shout out to Cliff. I haven't talked to him in years (decades?). On May 17, 2023 12:52:44 PM PDT, Steve Smith wrote: >In followup to the aphorisms related to "Life which wills to live" and "I am >who you think I think I am"... > >In a complementary tangent, as we (somebody) begins to wire u

[FRIAM] Umwelten Was: Bard and Don Quixote

2023-05-17 Thread Steve Smith
In followup to the aphorisms related to "Life which wills to live" and "I am who you think I think I am"... I have recently been reading Ed Yong's book "An Immense World" which is nominally about the animal kingdom's extremely wide and varied Umwelt and I

Re: [FRIAM] Bard and Don Quixote

2023-05-17 Thread Steve Smith
DaveW - As you might guess, my sympathies are fairly aligned with your point. A few aphorisms: 1. If you can't tell the difference, it doesn't matter 2. I am who you think I think I am 3. I am life which wills to live amongst life which wills to live The first is offered in the spirit that my

Re: [FRIAM] Bard and Don Quixote

2023-05-17 Thread glen
Yes, I tried to admit up front that "accurate", "exact", "indistiguishable", etc. are fraught. But the more interesting question is about subjectivity, pain, consciousness, reduction, training time, etc. One thing we often forget is the relationship between sequential and parallel processes. The

Re: [FRIAM] Bard and Don Quixote

2023-05-17 Thread Marcus Daniels
There are many idiosyncrasies of me that I would just as soon not exist. The new avatar could be the aspirational me! From: Friam On Behalf Of Prof David West Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2023 8:59 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Bard and Don Quixote My sympathies would be with your

Re: [FRIAM] Bard and Don Quixote

2023-05-17 Thread Prof David West
My sympathies would be with your friend—until such time as a**_ "clone exactly like her ... behavior, words, or even existence..." _**was demonstrated. "Exactly" is a big word! and I would add "completely." Even on a single dimension, say use of language, the standard of exact and complete is h