Re: [FRIAM] crackpots and privilege

2023-06-01 Thread glen
I like the arc. I've been interested in cross-species mind reading for awhile, to my usual vapid dilettante extent. A recent pop-sci article is here: https://theconversation.com/bees-can-learn-remember-think-and-make-decisions-heres-a-look-at-how-they-navigate-the-world-203837 I've recently gon

[FRIAM] India

2023-06-01 Thread glen
I don't follow Indian politics. But these seem scary: Religion and the decline of freethought in South Asia https://freethinker.co.uk/2022/04/religion-and-the-decline-of-freethought-in-south-asia/ India cuts periodic table and evolution from school textbooks https://www.nature.com/articles/d4158

Re: [FRIAM] India

2023-06-01 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Hi Glen In so far as the report of dropping the periodic table and evolution from the Class 10 syllabus, it is essentially a question of Hindu class and caste dynamics operating in India. Traditionally, education / knowledge in India was the domain of the Higher castes like Brahmins (Pundits), th

Re: [FRIAM] India

2023-06-01 Thread Marcus Daniels
There was this incident a few months ago where Scott Adams made unbelievable remarks about segregation. Someone that was once sort of a cool guy, seemingly degenerated into madness. In conservative circles in the U.S. there’s a strong resentment of Black Lives Matter, and one story that I hav

Re: [FRIAM] India

2023-06-01 Thread glen
Well, it's possible that our inferred concept of purpose is, as in exaptation vs. spandrel, flawed. While we're arrogant enough to try to engineer the world such that it teaches our offspring some particular things are more important or valuable than other particular things, the extent to which

Re: [FRIAM] India

2023-06-01 Thread Steve Smith
feeling a little like the cross product of (Vonnegut) Harrison Bergeron and George Santos ? On 6/1/23 12:07 PM, Sarbajit Roy wrote: Hi Glen In so far as the report of dropping the periodic table and evolution from the Class 10 syllabus, it is essentially a question of Hindu class and caste d

Re: [FRIAM] India

2023-06-01 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Thanks Steve, for reminding me of the Harrison Bergeron reference, very apt, it's been a while since I read Vonnegut. (I didn't know who George Santos is .. but now I know a bit about him). In the meantime, green shoots emerge with the few remaining educated people in Modi's party beginning to den

Re: [FRIAM] India

2023-06-01 Thread Marcus Daniels
I vaguely remember some official saying that self-driving cars would be outlawed in India, for fear it would take jobs away? From: Friam On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 3:10 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] India Thanks Steve

Re: [FRIAM] India

2023-06-01 Thread Sarbajit Roy
At the present time the roads are mostly so bad and filled with pedestrians and cows or camels darting about that self driving vehicles would be a non-starter anyway. I'm constantly amazed when I see Westerners in our capital New Delhi crossing roads at pedestrian crossings (crosswalks) on their g