Re: [FRIAM] differential diagnosis of psychopathic vs spiritual experiences

2024-08-06 Thread Marcus Daniels
Hmm. IIRC it was more traumatic than three dimensions could capture. From: Friam On Behalf Of Stephen Guerin Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2024 6:05 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] differential diagnosis of psychopathic vs spiritual experiences

Re: [FRIAM] differential diagnosis of psychopathic vs spiritual experiences

2024-08-06 Thread Stephen Guerin
Glen writes: >We had identities like "head" (kid who does lots of drugs), "jock" (kids who spent lots of time in organized athletics), "brain" (kids who spent time doing chess, math, ...), etc. There was also a name for the [metal|wood|…] shop kids. But I've forgotten it. Ala the ElfSelector and C

Re: [FRIAM] When are telic attributions appropriate in physical descriptions?

2024-08-06 Thread Nicholas Thompson
sorry I should have said "events" instead of "things". n On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 7:15 PM Nicholas Thompson wrote: > A law is not a cause; it is a relation between a class of things caused > and those things' "causer". > > N > > On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 7:12 PM Nicholas Thompson > wrote: > >> Yes

Re: [FRIAM] When are telic attributions appropriate in physical descriptions?

2024-08-06 Thread Nicholas Thompson
A law is not a cause; it is a relation between a class of things caused and those things' "causer". N On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 7:12 PM Nicholas Thompson wrote: > Yes. Because the verb require is intenSional and takes a proposition as > its object. Thus, if you graph the sentence, it really goe

Re: [FRIAM] When are telic attributions appropriate in physical descriptions?

2024-08-06 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Yes. Because the verb require is intenSional and takes a proposition as its object. Thus, if you graph the sentence, it really goes "Physical Law requires [that momentum be conserved]" Who is physical law to do that? I would say that in saying it that way you have introduced a category error.

Re: [FRIAM] When are telic attributions appropriate in physical descriptions?

2024-08-06 Thread Frank Wimberly
The puck conserves angular momentum as required by the physical law. Is that telic language? --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Tue, Aug 6, 2024, 3:10 PM Nicholas Thompson wrote: > Dear Phellow Phriammers, > > Ever since the days of Hywe

[FRIAM] When are telic attributions appropriate in physical descriptions?

2024-08-06 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Dear Phellow Phriammers, Ever since the days of Hywel White (GRHS) I have puzzled over the fact that telic language so often appears in physics discussions. I used to tease Hywel that Psychology must be the Mother of Physics, because he had to use psychological terms to describe the motion of par

Re: [FRIAM] differential diagnosis of psychopathic vs spiritual experiences

2024-08-06 Thread Frank Wimberly
Re self-identification. We adopted our daughter in Mexico and moved from Pittsburgh to Santa Fe about a year later. When she came home after her first day of kindergarten at E. J. Martinez I asked her if there were other Hispanic kids in her class. She said, "I dunno". Based on the kids who bec

Re: [FRIAM] why musk bought twitter

2024-08-06 Thread Sarbajit Roy
If you are including "divine experiences" from other world religions, I can suggest 2 candidates from Hinduism. It would be very interesting to see how these became so well known in this part of the woods. a) Mahasaya Lahiri and his encounter with Mahaavatra Babaji https://www.dunagiri.com/post/au