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From: Friam On Behalf Of Prof David West
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To: friam@redfish.com
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Ignore the software thing — an example of cross-talk between two unrelated
conversations that happens bec
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glen,
As a "trained" academic writer I am forced to "
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From: Friam On Behalf Of Prof David West
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"tracing ideas to foundations"
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>> unimportant one.
>>
>> As I said, see below: Oh, and dave, what I wrote below is TESTY. I don’t
>> realty feel testy, I don’t really feel qualified to be testy. I think the
>> rhetoric just got away with me. It has happened before and
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7, 2020 2:15 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Acid epistemology - restarting a previous conversation
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> Steve,
>
> I really hope that I have not advanced any of the three types of false
> dichotomy you note.
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> I cite "authority" or &q
in order to
> discover the structure of meat.
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From: Friam On Behalf Of Prof David West
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 3:37 AM
To: friam@redfish.com
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Acid epistemology - restarting a previous conversation
Oooh fun ...
I also st
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glen,
As a "trained" academic writer I am forced to "justify" every assertion with
voluminous footnotes proving some"Eminent Person" had the idea first.
[NST===>] I would cal
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Steve,
I really hope that I have not advanced any of the three types of false
dichotomy you note.
I cite "authority" or "dead white
f Of Prof David West
> Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 2:00 AM
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>
> thanks Glen,
>
> I totally agree with you about dead white guys. [Except I have had
> face-to-face conversat
gt; Your friend ,
> Nick
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> -Original Message-
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Steve,
Your experiences suggest that a visualization can prompt insightful thinking
and that is very cool. I also note the problems and issues you raise and do not
discount them.
I have no reason to believe that my "conception vision" gave me any insights,
fundamental or extravagant. I lack th
glen,
Much of what passes for "scientific visualization" is what you assert, pretty
pictures and little else. I have all four of Tufte's books on visualization and
find maybe half dozen examples that I think are actually profound and
meaningful. The Menard map of Napoleon's invasion and retreat
glen,
As a "trained" academic writer I am forced to "justify" every assertion with
voluminous footnotes proving some"Eminent Person" had the idea first. It was
not uncommon to find one of those whose work provided multiple "connection
points" and therefore "unified" my work.
But that is all cr
Steve,
I really hope that I have not advanced any of the three types of false
dichotomy you note.
I cite "authority" or "dead white guys" only because I think they have
expressed an idea in a manner far more eloquently than I am able to express it,
and my intent is never to say "this is so" bu
Frank,
it could be either. For trolling I would have to assume a particular form of
intent and. like glen or steve pointed out, making that kind of assumption with
this group would never occur to me.
It could have been an instance of insight like Huxley alludes to. That happens
all the time wi
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> -Original Message-
> From: Friam On Behalf Of Prof David West
> Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 8:30 AM
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> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Acid epistemology - restarting a previous con
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From: Friam On Behalf Of Prof David West
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 2:00 AM
To: friam@redfish.com
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Acid epistemology - restarting a previous conversation
thanks Glen,
I totally agree with you about dead white guys. [Except
Dave -
> 1) I am fascinated by the field of scientific visualization, using imagery to
> present complex data sets. Recently I "observed" the precise moment of
> sperm-egg fertilization. A whole lot was going on inside the egg cell
> boundary immediately upon contact (not penetration) with the
/
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From: Friam On Behalf Of Prof David West
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 2:00 AM
To: friam@redfish.com
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Acid epistemology - restarting a previous conversation
thanks Glen,
I totally agree with you about dead white guys. [Except I have had face-to-face
I hate visualization in the same way I hate poetry. In my work, I'm constantly
fighting the "kids" who want visualizations for everything. I tell them once
they understand the data, then they're free to visualize it any way they see
fit ... like your mom telling you to eat your vegetables before
Interesting. I'm skeptical that it *unifies* your work so much as it
*abstracts* your work into a fuzzy/vague thing that seems like it unifies your
work. That's the risk with unification and what I call Grand Unified Models
(GUMs). To produce an actual unification, you have to show the details f
thanks Glen,
I totally agree with you about dead white guys. [Except I have had face-to-face
conversations with a couple of them :) ] I reference them not as a source of
answers but in an attempt to find some kind of conceptual bridge for a
conversation. But that might be totally counterproduct
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Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 8:59 AM
To: FriAM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Acid epistemology - restarting a previous conversation
It's not pesky f
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Dave -
As for me, I'm not irritated with your keeping these discussions going.
I *am* irritated with the larger (cross-domain, national/global) discussion of
"Truthiness" and the various bimodal fallaci
Dave -
As for me, I'm not irritated with your keeping these discussions going.
I *am* irritated with the larger (cross-domain, national/global)
discussion of "Truthiness" and the various bimodal fallacies introduced
thereby.
Science and the Scientific Method, for example, have built into them a
Dave,
Was my memory of my then 7 year-old daughter confusing "oxytocin" and
"oxymoron" an instance of trolling or the kind of experience you were
alluding to in
"He could never, poor fellow, have seen a bunch of flowers shining with
their own inner light and all but quivering under the pre3ssure
It's not pesky for me in the slightest. I'm *very* interested. I haven't
contributed because it's not clear I have anything to contribute.
Maybe I can start with a criticism, though. It's unclear to me why you (or
anyone) would delicately flip through crumbling pages of philosophy when there
ar
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8:30 AM
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Acid epistemology - restarting a previous conversation
Nick,
We assert "knowledge" all the time.
You "know" that is is Friday morning and you need to be on your way to St.
John's.
Person X "knows" that
ng understanding of what
>> we mean by it, if we are to precede.
>>
>> Nicholas Thompson
>> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
>> Clark University
>> thompnicks...@gmail.com
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>>
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> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 1:48 AM
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with the very idea of knowledge lie at the core of this
> discussion, and we need some sort of working understanding of what we mean
> by it, if we are to precede.
>
> Nicholas Thompson
> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
> Clark University
> thompnicks...@gmail.com
t; I think problems with the very idea of knowledge lie at the core of this
>>> discussion, and we need some sort of working understanding of what we mean
>>> by it, if we are to precede.
>>>
>>> Nicholas Thompson
>>> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and P
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From: Friam On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 8:27 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Acid epistemology - restarting a previous conversation
>From the web:
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ion, and we need some sort of working understanding of what we mean
>> by it, if we are to precede.
>>
>> Nicholas Thompson
>> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
>> Clark University
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>> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
>>
of Ethology and Psychology
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ecede.
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From: Friam On Behalf Of Prof David West
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 1:48 AM
To: friam@redfish.com
Subject: [FRIA
Epistemology, loosely speaking, is the “theory of knowing.” What can we know;
how do we know we know it; the difference between knowing that, knowing how,
and knowing about; and, issues of the “truth” of what we know and/or
justifications for thinking we know anything?
An associated issue conce
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