Re: [FRIAM] Blinded By Science - When models FAIL taking all the humans

Thus spake peter circa 10/18/2008 07:26 PM: > glen e. p. ropella wrote: >> Peter? Did you ever get a chance to dig up some names of these >> "complexity science geniuses"? >> > > Lets see how accurate these names are and when they get their subpoenas > > Rothman / Kearns / Goldberg / Cushing

Re: [FRIAM] Blinded By Science - When models FAIL taking all the humans

Peter Baston *IDEAS* /www.ideapete.com/ glen e. p. ropella wrote: Thus spake peggy miller circa 10/17/2008 09:32 AM: Translation -- statistics and common sense verified that the larger the operation becomes, with noticeably poorer decisions happening at t

Re: [FRIAM] Blinded By Science - When models FAIL taking all the humans

ent: Friday, October 17, 2008 4:03 PM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Blinded By Science - When models FAIL taking all > the humans > > I found that Nature article disingenuous. It just so happened I sat > down to dinner with

Re: [FRIAM] Blinded By Science - When models FAIL taking all the humans

en e. p. ropella > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 1:27 PM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Blinded By Science - When models FAIL taking all > the humans > > Thus spake peggy miller circa 10/17/2008 09:32 AM: > > Translation -- statis

Re: [FRIAM] Blinded By Science - When models FAIL taking all the humans

I found that Nature article disingenuous. It just so happened I sat down to dinner with a couple of bigtime modelers on Tuesday night--one models mathematically, one heuristically. They hadn't ever talked about it with each other, but they found out they'd done the same thing: they'd done the

Re: [FRIAM] Blinded By Science - When models FAIL taking all the humans

Peggy, Sounds like interesting and important results. Do you have citations? -- Russ Abbott _ Professor, Computer Science California State University, Los Angeles o Check out my blog at http://russabbott.blogspot.com/ On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:27 AM,

Re: [FRIAM] Blinded By Science - When models FAIL taking all the humans

Thus spake peggy miller circa 10/17/2008 09:32 AM: > Translation -- statistics and common sense verified that the larger the > operation becomes, with noticeably poorer decisions happening at the size of > business over $1 billion in profits, matched by replacement of > ownership/manager with non-o

[FRIAM] Blinded By Science - When models FAIL taking all the humans

Models don't replace ownership and smaller sized business responsibility...unless can figure out a model for Caring. When I was doing bank work in D.C. for Consumer Federation, I ended up with the position, due both to intuition, as well as hard facts from studies that were performed by Harvard an

[FRIAM] Blinded By Science - When models FAIL taking all the humans with them

The best piece in this entire article ( Posted in full because its subscribers only ) is " How could so many smart people have got it so wrong? One reason is that their faith in their models' predictive powers led them to ignore what was happening in the real world." What does that say about