Re: [FRIAM] Court: Judges Can Consider Predictive Algorithms in Sentencing

2016-08-28 Thread Owen Densmore
The recent horrific killing of a 10 year old in santa fe makes me think that anything that can help with recidivism would be a Good Thing. http://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/local_news/albuquerque-girl-s-killing-is-new-mexico-s-latest-horrific/article_e6c5c95a-6a1b-51e4-a42a-4ce241923d1b.html

Re: [FRIAM] Court: Judges Can Consider Predictive Algorithms in Sentencing

2016-08-27 Thread Tom Johnson
You saw this, right? Looks like someone has evaluated independently ... https://www.propublica.org/article/how-we-analyzed-the- compas-recidivism-algorithm Tom Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA 505.577.6482(c)

Re: [FRIAM] Court: Judges Can Consider Predictive Algorithms in Sentencing

2016-08-27 Thread Steven A Smith
Interesting development! Slippery slope at the very least. Seems like this is square between "profiling" and that PK Dick story "Minority Report" On 8/26/16 5:24 PM, Pamela McCorduck wrote: So agree. We are *so* far from certain on this one. On Aug 26, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Tom Johnson

Re: [FRIAM] Court: Judges Can Consider Predictive Algorithms in Sentencing

2016-08-26 Thread Jacqueline Kazil
Looks like someone has evaluated independently ... https://www.propublica.org/article/how-we-analyzed-the-compas-recidivism-algorithm On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 12:52 AM, Jacqueline Kazil wrote: > I want to see the source code. > > On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: > >> yuval

Re: [FRIAM] Court: Judges Can Consider Predictive Algorithms in Sentencing

2016-08-26 Thread Jacqueline Kazil
I want to see the source code. On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: > yuval harari on a similar question http://www.ft.com/ > cms/s/2/50bb4830-6a4c-11e6-ae5b-a7cc5dd5a28c.html#axzz4ITEeTSei excerpted > from his new book, I think. > > -- rec -- > > On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 7:24

Re: [FRIAM] Court: Judges Can Consider Predictive Algorithms in Sentencing

2016-08-26 Thread Roger Critchlow
yuval harari on a similar question http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/50bb4830-6a4c-11e6-ae5b-a7cc5dd5a28c.html#axzz4ITEeTSei excerpted from his new book, I think. -- rec -- On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Pamela McCorduck wrote: > So agree. We are *so* far from certain on this one. > > > On Aug 26, 20

Re: [FRIAM] Court: Judges Can Consider Predictive Algorithms in Sentencing

2016-08-26 Thread Pamela McCorduck
So agree. We are *so* far from certain on this one. > On Aug 26, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Tom Johnson wrote: > > I think we should proceed with great caution on this one. > > http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2016/07/13/court-judges-can-consider-predictive-algorithms-in-sentencing/ > >

Re: [FRIAM] Court: Judges Can Consider Predictive Algorithms in Sentencing

2016-08-26 Thread Gillian Densmore
Hmm so then soon we'll get halographic computers with Qbits and timelords guessing what me might do. That didn't end well. On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Tom Johnson wrote: > I think we should proceed with great caution on this one. > > http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2016/07/13/court-judges-can-cons

[FRIAM] Court: Judges Can Consider Predictive Algorithms in Sentencing

2016-08-26 Thread Tom Johnson
I think we should proceed with great caution on this one. http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2016/07/13/court-judges-can-consider-predictive-algorithms-in-sentencing/ TJ ===