Re: [FRIAM] Different topic

2010-03-13 Thread Douglas Roberts
That was bad. Very bad. I'm envious. On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 4:13 PM, wrote: > When you go back to work on Monday, guys, beware the IDEs of March. > > = > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St.

Re: [FRIAM] Different topic

2010-03-13 Thread lrudolph
When you go back to work on Monday, guys, beware the IDEs of March. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

Re: [FRIAM] Different topic

2010-03-13 Thread Gary Schiltz
I used Eclipse intensively and daily for quite a few years, starting around 2002 if I remember correctly, until 2008 (when I retired, or as I like to think of it, took an extended personal sabbatical to Ecuador). There are a number of reasons I really liked Eclipse, at least for Java development

Re: [FRIAM] Different topic

2010-03-13 Thread Steve Smith
Owen - From one crusty old unix guy to another... I'm still splitting my time between Vi/Make (technically Vim, but hardly use the advanced features) and the IDE-of-the-moment. Xcode, Eclipse, Processing are the most likely... and I find them all "very good". My biggest gripe, if I mu

Re: [FRIAM] Different topic

2010-03-13 Thread Owen Densmore
On Mar 13, 2010, at 12:44 AM, Jochen Fromm wrote: Large IDEs like VisualStudio, Eclipse or NetBeans are sometimes a bit slow. This is not surprising, since they are often written in Java. But they offer powerful functions for compiling and debugging, and they have syntax highlighting, code comple

Re: [FRIAM] Different topic

2010-03-13 Thread Douglas Roberts
I'm another (C O G). Emacs + gdb + gdb-mode == the best source-level debugging combo. TotalView is ok, for a gui, pointy-clicky distributed debugging experience, but I prefer emacs + gdb for serial debugging. --Doug On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Owen Densmore wrote: > With diversity, str

Re: [FRIAM] Different topic

2010-03-13 Thread Owen Densmore
With diversity, strength. I had an interesting conversation with Robert Holmes about his use of Vi (I think he uses the newer Vim variant). He's incorporated it into his work flow in a fairly complete way .. and this is its strength: edit, compile, look at the file system, jump back and ha

Re: [FRIAM] Different topic

2010-03-12 Thread Jochen Fromm
. I can not debug a program with Notepad, Emacs, VI or JEdit. Who wants to use VI anyway? -J. - Original Message - From: "Owen Densmore" To: "The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group" Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 4:16 AM Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Different t

Re: [FRIAM] Different topic

2010-03-12 Thread Owen Densmore
It's directly proportional to how gawd awful languages and their management become. Basically programming environments have gotten so bad that You Need Help! I will say, however, there's an interesting new breed of editors that are halfway between "text editors" and IDEs. TextMate is absf

Re: [FRIAM] Different topic

2010-03-12 Thread Douglas Roberts
enhills. > > Ray Parks > > -- > *From*: friam-boun...@redfish.com > *To*: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > Friam@redfish.com> > *Sent*: Fri Mar 12 11:28:25 2010 > *Subject*: [FRIAM] Different topic > > Could someone please remind me again why s

Re: [FRIAM] Different topic

2010-03-12 Thread Parks, Raymond
Complexity Coffee Group Sent: Fri Mar 12 11:28:25 2010 Subject: [FRIAM] Different topic Could someone please remind me again why so many people seem to like Eclipse? A colleague of mine at RTI took one of my distributed C++ applications and turned it into an Appliance via VMWare (and/or

[FRIAM] Different topic

2010-03-12 Thread Douglas Roberts
Could someone please remind me again why so many people seem to like Eclipse? A colleague of mine at RTI took one of my distributed C++ applications and turned it into an Appliance via VMWare (and/or) VirtualBox. All you have to do is run the appliance in a VM and you can emulate running distribu

Re: [FRIAM] Different topic

2009-10-11 Thread Douglas Roberts
Damn, no respect from every quarter. Sadly, I'm used to that. --DJR On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: > I read this to my MythBuntu server, and it's only comment was: ow, > butthead. > -- rec -- > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote: > >> Far, far rem

Re: [FRIAM] Different topic

2009-10-11 Thread Roger Critchlow
I read this to my MythBuntu server, and it's only comment was: ow, butthead. -- rec -- On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote: > Far, far removed, thankfully, from the topic of 'should, or should not > FRIAMers be encouraged to ramble enthusiastically about [pick your topic] in >

Re: [FRIAM] Different topic

2009-10-11 Thread ERIC P. CHARLES
Actually, I suspect that before any of that happens we will have a discussion about how "bandwidth" is in an emergent property not fully determined by any single piece of hardware (as the bottleneck analogy would lead one to believe). Of course, I know less about that than many on the lists, so I

[FRIAM] Different topic

2009-10-11 Thread Douglas Roberts
Far, far removed, thankfully, from the topic of 'should, or should not FRIAMers be encouraged to ramble enthusiastically about [pick your topic] in the never ending goal of advancing science'. Topic du Jour, for those who have lost count: emergence, and should we (or not) expect anything of subst