Re: [FRIAM] Emergence and Downward Causation

2020-11-04 Thread thompnickson2
ate words from ideas. I hope he right, but I am not so sure. Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University <mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> thompnicks...@gmail.com <https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nt

Re: [FRIAM] Emergence and Downward Causation

2020-11-04 Thread Eric Charles
> > > > Nicholas Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > > Clark University > > thompnicks...@gmail.com > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > > > *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Eric Charles > *Sent:* Monday, Novem

Re: [FRIAM] Emergence and Downward Causation

2020-11-02 Thread thompnickson2
nthompson/> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam On Behalf Of Eric Charles Sent: Monday, November 2, 2020 4:35 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Emergence and Downward Causation Jochen, At a first pass I don't think I dis

Re: [FRIAM] Emergence and Downward Causation

2020-11-02 Thread Eric Charles
self. IMHO language in written or spoken form is the key to > causation. > > Or would you disagree? As a psychologist you know better than me how the > mind works. > > -J. > > > ---- Original message ---- > From: Eric Charles > Date: 10/30/20 13:5

Re: [FRIAM] Emergence and Downward Causation

2020-10-30 Thread Jochen Fromm
ty Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Emergence and Downward Causation Come on man this shit isn't that hardFirst, you buy into a system of levels. Then something at a higher level causes something at a lower level. IF you really have a problem with it, it's because you think the &quo

Re: [FRIAM] Emergence and Downward Causation

2020-10-30 Thread Eric Charles
ets > which everybody obeys have obviously a strong causal connection to everyone. > > -J. > > > Original message > From: thompnicks...@gmail.com > Date: 10/29/20 20:26 (GMT+01:00) > To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' <

Re: [FRIAM] Emergence and Downward Causation

2020-10-29 Thread Jochen Fromm
causal connection to everyone.-J.  Original message From: thompnicks...@gmail.com Date: 10/29/20 20:26 (GMT+01:00) To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: [FRIAM] Emergence and Downward Causation All,  Nobody seems to have the energy for a co

[FRIAM] Emergence and Downward Causation

2020-10-29 Thread thompnickson2
All, Nobody seems to have the energy for a conversation about emergence right now, but if we were to, I would hope we would start with saying what we thought emergence is. My working definition comes from Wimsatt. He starts by defining aggregativity as a property of whole which is pret