Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF City Hall; bring friends

2020-01-14 Thread Frank Wimberly
I worked at CMU for 20 years. When I moved to Santa Fe it occurred to me that a branch campus in Santa Fe might be a possibility. CMU's strongest programs and in engineering and science (not surprisingly) and fine arts (perhaps surprising to some) but with growing excellence in humanities and soc

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF City Hall; bring friends

2020-01-14 Thread Marcus Daniels
Nick writes: “People have kids because they have hopes; people with more fears than hopes, probably don’t have kids.” Ed writes: “It seems we who have benefited either directly or indirectly from the welfare that has supported the labs in NM should feel some responsibility to help the 75% of

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF City Hall; bring friends

2020-01-14 Thread Marcus Daniels
Nick writes: < In other words, are the ills you identify inherent to all human institutions, or really only inherent to government ones. Would it be better if CMU put a campus here? > Why would CMU do that unless it was to 1) have a pool of experienced people to hire, or 2) attach to governme

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2020-01-14 Thread thompnickson2
<https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam On Behalf Of Steven A Smith Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:48 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF City Hall; bring friends

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2020-01-14 Thread Edward Angel
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > <https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/> > > > From: Friam mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On > Behalf Of Marcus Daniels > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:09 AM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF City Hall; bring friends

2020-01-14 Thread thompnickson2
Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF City Hall; bring friends Ed writes: “For those of us concerned with economic development is a state which leads in childhood poverty, the labs are not an asset, largely because of precisely the points

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2020-01-14 Thread Steven A Smith
Merle, et al - Though I reject most of the extreme arguments I hear on both sides of this issue, my instinct is that it would be better if Santa Fe did NOT invite LANL/NNSA into the development of this critical/central/prime location in the heart of *greater* Santa Fe.   I've been living in a var

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2020-01-14 Thread Marcus Daniels
Ed writes: “For those of us concerned with economic development is a state which leads in childhood poverty, the labs are not an asset, largely because of precisely the points we agree on.” Why people have kids when then have no means to support them continues to baffle me. Los Alamos was chos

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF City Hall; bring friends

2020-01-14 Thread Angel Edward
I agree with your observations. The problem is that your fix is exactly what is happening with our best students. They leave. For those of us concerned with economic development is a state which leads in childhood poverty, the labs are not an asset, largely because of precisely the points we a

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2020-01-14 Thread Marcus Daniels
Ed writes: “In area in which I’ve worked, there have been large expensive projects at the labs, the quality has been mediocre and the labs are almost totally unrepresented in open conferences and journals. A related issue is that the cost of doing science at the labs is ridiculously high, anoth

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2020-01-14 Thread thompnickson2
<https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam On Behalf Of Merle Lefkoff Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 7:43 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside S

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF City Hall; bring friends

2020-01-14 Thread Edward Angel
> in Santa Fe.Anyway, get real, if it wasn't for all the federal money, > cities in New Mexico would collapse, there would be no SFI, etc. > > > > Marcus > > From: Friam mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> on > behalf of Merle Lefkoff <mailto:me

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF City Hall; bring friends

2020-01-14 Thread Prof David West
gt;>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> < There are many powerful people in Washington who know LANL >>>>>>> specializes in taxpayer ripoffs. > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am confident the use of such a property would be for scien

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2020-01-14 Thread Marcus Daniels
t; Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 2:41 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group mailto:friam@redfish.com>> Subject: [FRIAM] Fwd: NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF City Hall; bring friends -- Forwarded message - From: Leslie Lakind mailto:l

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2020-01-14 Thread Frank Wimberly
t;>>> administration, and outreach & training functions, not secure national >>>>> work. It would probably make a lot of LANL employees happy, as many of >>>>> them live in Santa Fe. Anyway, get real, if it wasn't for all the >>>>> f

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF City Hall; bring friends

2020-01-14 Thread Marcus Daniels
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group mailto:friam@redfish.com>> Subject: [FRIAM] Fwd: NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF City Hall; bring friends -- Forwarded message - From: Leslie Lakind mailto:leftielak...@gmail.com>> Date: Mon, Jan

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF City Hall; bring friends

2020-01-14 Thread Merle Lefkoff
gt;>> federal money, cities in New Mexico would collapse, there would be no SFI, >>>> etc. >>>> >>>> Marcus >>>> -- >>>> *From:* Friam on behalf of Merle Lefkoff < >>>> merlelefk...@gm

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2020-01-14 Thread Frank Wimberly
lapse, there would be no SFI, >>> etc. >>> >>> Marcus >>> -- >>> *From:* Friam on behalf of Merle Lefkoff < >>> merlelefk...@gmail.com> >>> *Sent:* Monday, January 13, 2020 2:41 PM >&

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF City Hall; bring friends

2020-01-14 Thread Merle Lefkoff
ederal money, cities in New Mexico would collapse, there would be no SFI, >> etc. >> >> Marcus >> -- >> *From:* Friam on behalf of Merle Lefkoff < >> merlelefk...@gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Monday, January 13, 2020 2:41 PM >> *To:* The Friday Morning Appl

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2020-01-13 Thread uǝlƃ ☣
I often worry that I'm morally compromised. Nuclear weapons are, I think, analogous to human germline engineering. On the one hand, it *seems* rightly taboo. But on the other hand, we all *know* someone, somewhere, sometime, will be less inclined to consider the consequences of their actions ...

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF City Hall; bring friends

2020-01-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
Merle writes: “I spent four years at CNLS as Guest Scientist and Affiliate.” I worked at LANL for more than a decade. I think it is a unique organization that has a lot of great people. If you want to find a prototype for your flawed person template, I’m a perfect fit. Maybe even better th

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2020-01-13 Thread George Duncan
lelefk...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Monday, January 13, 2020 2:41 PM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > *Subject:* [FRIAM] Fwd: NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF > City Hall; bring friends > > > >

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2020-01-13 Thread Merle Lefkoff
lelefk...@gmail.com> > *Reply-To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > *Date: *Monday, January 13, 2020 at 8:37 PM > *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: NO

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF City Hall; bring friends

2020-01-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
, 2020 at 8:37 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF City Hall; bring friends Marcus, I spent four years at CNLS as Guest Scientist and Affiliate. I still wouldn't be O.K. if it were housed in San

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF City Hall; bring friends

2020-01-13 Thread Merle Lefkoff
M > *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 > outside SF City Hall; bring friends > > > > In Pittsburgh I worked with a man who had formerly worked at LANL in > plasma

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2020-01-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
Frank Wimberly Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 at 7:41 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF City Hall; bring friends In Pittsburgh I worked

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2020-01-13 Thread thompnickson2
du/nthompson/ From: Friam On Behalf Of Merle Lefkoff Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 2:41 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: [FRIAM] Fwd: NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF City Hall; bring friends -- Forwarded message - From: L

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2020-01-13 Thread Frank Wimberly
2020 2:41 PM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > *Subject:* [FRIAM] Fwd: NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF > City Hall; bring friends > > > > -- Forwarded message - > From: *Leslie Lakind* &g

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2020-01-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: [FRIAM] Fwd: NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF City Hall; bring friends -- Forwarded message - From: Leslie Lakind mailto:leftielak...@gmail.com>> Date: Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 2:23 PM Subject

[FRIAM] Fwd: NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF City Hall; bring friends

2020-01-13 Thread Merle Lefkoff
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