Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile ...

2021-10-08 Thread Marcus Daniels
Texas needs all the smart people it can get! > On Oct 8, 2021, at 7:58 AM, uǝlƃ ☤>$ wrote: > > Tesla headquarters will move from California to Texas, Elon Musk says > https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/oct/07/tesla-moving-texas-elon-musk-california > > Meanwhile, > > https://projects

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2021-10-08 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
Tesla headquarters will move from California to Texas, Elon Musk says https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/oct/07/tesla-moving-texas-elon-musk-california Meanwhile, https://projects.propublica.org/climate-migration/ I suppose it makes some sense. Robots don't care how hot it is as long as

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

2020-05-08 Thread Roger Critchlow
gt; - Steve > > Marcus, > > Thanks for taking my question seriously. I understood what I was talking > about even less than I usually do. > > Let’s say I was an evil genius and wanted to introduce evil code into a > project on github. What would happen? > > N >

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

2020-05-07 Thread Jon Zingale
Roger, You say, "It's already happened more than once. People, acting as if they cared about the code have taken over existing projects when the current developer loses interest. Then they modify the code so it does something evil in addition to its original purpose, say stealing bitcoin wallet

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

2020-05-07 Thread Jon Zingale
Roger, I am aware they these agents are not interested in fixing the problem. As a high volume participant on Github, I wish to speak with some authority that the actions these agent pursue betray a misunderstanding of git workflow. The goal it seems is to project the facebook/youtube comments mod

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

2020-05-07 Thread Marcus Daniels
: Friam on behalf of Frank Wimberly Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Date: Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 2:21 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms I was working on a large software project at CMU and

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

2020-05-07 Thread Frank Wimberly
I was working on a large software project at CMU and when I implemented a new algorithm I would implement a couple of unit tests using the data I tested it with. This would take about half an hour. Then I forgot about them. I got compliments for how useful they were in testing new releases of th

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

2020-05-07 Thread Jon Zingale
Marcus, I object that, 'People that love unit tests love not understanding the problem they are solving'. Some of us love unit tests and realize that the problem is not solved by them. Jon .-. .- -. -.. --- -- -..-. -.. --- - ... -..-. .- -. -.. -..-. -.. .- ... . ... FRIAM Applied Complexi

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

2020-05-07 Thread Marcus Daniels
Roger writes: < With due respect to Marcus, I do think they're trolls, they think that all of reality is one big con game, that the pandemic is a fraud, and that acting like simpletons who believe that unit testing is sacred is the con that they are called upon to play today. > One kind of s

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

2020-05-07 Thread Steven A Smith
eu.    >> >> >> >>  - Steve >> >>> Marcus,  >>>   >>> Thanks for taking my question seriously.  I understood what I was >>> talking about even less than I usually do.  >>>   >>> Let’s say I was an evil genius and wanted to introd

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

2020-05-07 Thread Bob Ballance
What would happen? >> >> N >> >> Nicholas Thompson >> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology >> Clark University >> thompnicks...@gmail.com <mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> >> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ >> <https://word

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2020-05-07 Thread thompnickson2
rsday, May 7, 2020 2:23 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms Nick - I doubt I can do justice to this for you, but will give a try. The idea(l) behind open-source is two-fold: 1. develop a "commons" of re-useable resources to be

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

2020-05-07 Thread Roger Critchlow
Jon -- I agree, they could work to fix the software problem, but they're not interested in fixing the software problem. I think their intention is to gamergate the corona virus, spreading FUD about expert opinion. With due respect to Marcus, I do think they're trolls, they think that all of real

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

2020-05-07 Thread Steven A Smith
<mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > >   > >   > > *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Marcus Daniels > *Sent:* Thursday, May 7, 2020 11:05 AM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > > *Subject:*

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

2020-05-07 Thread Roger Critchlow
t; > thompnicks...@gmail.com > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > > > *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Marcus Daniels > *Sent:* Thursday, May 7, 2020 11:05 AM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > Friam@redfish.com> > *S

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

2020-05-07 Thread Marcus Daniels
Nick writes: < Let’s say I was an evil genius and wanted to introduce evil code into a project on github. What would happen? > Typically the person maintaining the project will require modestly-sized patches that are described one at a time. They will “pull” these changes from the contribut

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

2020-05-07 Thread thompnickson2
ning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms Nick writes: < What exactly IS the policing mechanism in open source. Darwinian? Reputational? Does this HAVE to provoke a crisis of confidence in the general public? Or could it be seen as

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

2020-05-07 Thread Marcus Daniels
Nick writes: < What exactly IS the policing mechanism in open source. Darwinian? Reputational? Does this HAVE to provoke a crisis of confidence in the general public? Or could it be seen as a heroic thrown-together first step that is now being improved? > They are whining about simple or ab

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

2020-05-07 Thread Jon Zingale
Roger, It seems to me that because this is open source software, any individual who wishes to fork the repo and write unit tests can. Doing so would be a kind of verification replicability. That the trolls are attempting to toxify and politicize the very space where the open source community estab

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

2020-05-07 Thread thompnickson2
exity Coffee Group Subject: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms Looks like a concerted effort to discredit the ICL Covid simulation for lack of adequate unit testing, all in a github issue: https://github.com/mrc-ide/covid-sim/issues/165 Oh, of course, retract all policies base

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

2020-05-07 Thread Marcus Daniels
Subject: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms Looks like a concerted effort to discredit the ICL Covid simulation for lack of adequate unit testing, all in a github issue: https://github.com/mrc-ide/covid-sim/issues/165 Oh, of course, retract all policies based on it, too. via https

[FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

2020-05-07 Thread Roger Critchlow
Looks like a concerted effort to discredit the ICL Covid simulation for lack of adequate unit testing, all in a github issue: https://github.com/mrc-ide/covid-sim/issues/165 Oh, of course, retract all policies based on it, too. via https://news.ycombinator.com/ -- rec -- .-. .- -. -.. --- --