Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

2020-09-07 Thread David Eric Smith
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Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

2020-09-07 Thread thompnickson2
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Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

2020-09-07 Thread Eric Charles
Eric Charles > *Sent:* Saturday, September 5, 2020 11:01 PM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening > > > > "Perhaps I should have said, early on, “Look, I’m so

Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

2020-09-06 Thread thompnickson2
nt: Saturday, September 5, 2020 11:01 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening "Perhaps I should have said, early on, “Look, I’m sorry, I keep seeing you as Uncle Remus. I am sure, as I get to know you b

Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

2020-09-05 Thread Eric Charles
"Perhaps I should have said, early on, “Look, I’m sorry, I keep seeing you as Uncle Remus. I am sure, as I get to know you better, I will get over it. Please be patient with me, and please call me out whenever you feel confined by it. ” A Liberalism that does not free me is not worth the

Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

2020-09-05 Thread Steve Smith
> My solution is to elect Biden and to use Trump as an example of the > kind of person to never elect again.  But that's just me. Sounds like a partial lobotomy.   I'm game for this... but not sure it is more than "a good start", which of course is, in fact, a good start. > > --- > Frank C.

Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

2020-09-05 Thread Frank Wimberly
My solution is to elect Biden and to use Trump as an example of the kind of person to never elect again. But that's just me. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sat, Sep 5, 2020, 8:15 PM Steve Smith wrote: > > > Yes, you could say that

Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

2020-09-05 Thread Steve Smith
> Yes, you could say that government in general and especially lawmakers > are our superego.  The best common word synonym for superego is > conscience.  Since a lot of people have lacunae of their own superego > we need laws and law enforcers. So right now we are in the midst of a collective

Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

2020-09-05 Thread Frank Wimberly
Yes, you could say that government in general and especially lawmakers are our superego. The best common word synonym for superego is conscience. Since a lot of people have lacunae of their own superego we need laws and law enforcers. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505

Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

2020-09-05 Thread Steve Smith
Frank - I see your case for the Constitution-as-superego.   I guess I was thinking more in the social-cultural sense than the political.   When we were a predominantly religious (e.g. Christian) culture, perhaps it was the various "Good Books" and the church leadership(s)... 

Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

2020-09-05 Thread Steve Smith
nthompson/ > >   > >   > > *From:* Friam <mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Smith > *Sent:* Saturday, September 5, 2020 5:41 PM > *To:* friam@redfish.com <mailto:friam@redfish.com> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] OFFL

Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

2020-09-05 Thread Frank Wimberly
p.s. do a Google search of "superego", Steve. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sat, Sep 5, 2020, 7:12 PM Frank Wimberly wrote: > Well, you could say that the Constitution is a kind of superego. It's > interesting that Trump resents

Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

2020-09-05 Thread Frank Wimberly
Well, you could say that the Constitution is a kind of superego. It's interesting that Trump resents the ways in which it constrains him. He tries to get around it with surprising success thanks to sycophants like Barr et al. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505

Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

2020-09-05 Thread Steve Smith
Frank - >   And that trait ingratiates with those amongst us who have base > impulses for which we fear we might be shamed. > > And that includes everyone.  But then most of us have superegos that > constrain us.  Trump less so. Ah, but HIS is a SuperDuperEgo... just ask him, he'll tell ya! I

Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

2020-09-05 Thread Russ Abbott
> > > > > > *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Steve Smith > *Sent:* Saturday, September 5, 2020 5:41 PM > *To:* friam@redfish.com > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening > > > > James is the man... I didn't want to name him spe

Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

2020-09-05 Thread Frank Wimberly
t; Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > > Clark University > > thompnicks...@gmail.com > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > > > *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Steve Smith > *Sent:* Saturday, September 5, 2020 5:41 PM > *To:* friam@redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

2020-09-05 Thread thompnickson2
<https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2020 5:41 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening James is the man... I didn't want to name him s

Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

2020-09-05 Thread Steve Smith
James is the man...  I didn't want to name him speculatively on-list.   I don't know the Ohori's owner, only the original founder Susan Ohori... I guess she cashed out some time back?  It hasn't felt like her touch for some time.   James would have been avoiding Larry, not you, even though you

[FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

2020-09-05 Thread thompnickson2
Dear Steve, I would not be surprised if you did, indeed, know him. Somehow, he worked his way into being something of a water commissioner up there, mediating the most difficult issue I can imagine. as a stranger? The whole thing seemed incredible to me, but a credit, in any case, to the