All,

I just want to thank everybody for the illuminating discussions on the 
foundations of mathematics over the last week.   I have to admit that I have 
been overwhelmed by the response and unable to make the kind of use of it that 
I had hoped.  When I started the Noodling project, I thought a few comments 
would come in and over a week or so, I would integrate these into a new version 
of the original noodle, and so incorporate into a developing text, the various 
gems that the FRIAM list generated.  In my wildest dreams,  I thought, others 
might see  the value in this, and  would help with the integrations.  The 
wisdom of the FRIAM list would be accumulated and  the Complexity Noodlers' 
Corner would be a place where the world could come to sample it.   

The response has been so enormous that I have been hard pressed to read and 
respond to it, let alone to try and pull it together and integrate it into a 
text that describes the different points of view.  And now I have to stop for a 
week while I drive to Atlantic Canada and back.   The Noodlers' Corner 
(http://www.sfcomplex.org/wiki/ComplexityNoodlersCorner  sits latent on the 
web.  And anybody is welcome to try their hand at re-noodling the discussion.  
Or starting a new noodle topic .  Best way in is 
(http://www.sfcomplex.org/wiki/NoodlersIndex.  )

One point.  On the basis of this experience, I think, despite Steve's marvelous 
 arguments for a tangled bank of noodles (see 
http://www.sfcomplex.org/wiki/MetaNoodles), I am convinced by "gepr" (WHO WAS 
THAT MASKED MAN?) who urged that comments go to discussion and suggested texts 
go in the original articles.  thus there would be a movement of text from the 
discussion to the actual text as people NOODLED it.  I wonder if it makes 
anysense to try and get FRIAM to automatically create a wiki for each of its 
threads.  The discussion on the FRIAM list would then automatically go into the 
DISCUSSSION page for that wiki.  THEN, anybody who wanted to NOODLE that 
thread, could propose texts in the ARTICLE section of the wiki to draw together 
the strands of that thread.  

One technical point.  In the naming conventions of media wiki, a wiki name is 
case dependent.  I THINK I have used CamelText (UpperAndLowerCaseWithoutSpaces) 
for all my WikiNames  But be advised:  let's say you for get and, in trying to 
get to http://www.sfcomplex.org/wiki/NoodlersIndex.  you type in 
"noodlersindex" instead.  MediaWiki will cheerfully CREATE that page for you 
and deliver you to its elegant blankness.  You will then be tempted to write in 
the  blank page, at which point we now have two pages of the same name dealing 
with the same material, but with different typefaces.  So please, please I beg 
of you, use CamelText and no underscores when you name or when you address 
them.  

ok NOW I will shut up. 

Nick 

Take care, all, 

Nick 


Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, 
Clark University ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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