Re: [FRIAM] Open Letter, draft #2

John writes: “Is there something that animals, or more particularly humans, can do which we can prove cannot be duplicated by a sequential machine?” A sequential computer program could simply be a loop that sampled random numbers and indexed into the address space of the computer program

[FRIAM] better than Viking river cruises?

https://www.newsweek.com/forget-mars-venus-should-be-nasas-next-space-destination-opinion-1171683 “Considering all these factors, conceivably you could go for a walk on a platform outside the airship, carrying only your air supply and wearing a chemical hazard suit.”

Re: [FRIAM] gerrymandering algorithm question

Glen writes: < I.e. perhaps there is no such thing as irreconcilable values? ... that any system we put in place, as long as it's fixed for the rest of eternity will lead to (new) irreconcilable values? If our reconciliation methods were treated as the manipulation-discovery experiments that

Re: [FRIAM] Pondering the slang Adulting

I find it more like 25-30 years of injuries, small and large. Some were necessary and/or self-inflicted, but I’m very different than I was (for better or worse). I still wonder what it would be like to wake-up and feel like an adult, or if there are people happy with the idea and feel like it

Re: [FRIAM] Pondering the slang Adulting

nt is just as good for a Hive mind. On 11/14/18, 3:34 PM, "Marcus Daniels" wrote: Glen writes: < The real trick is whether adulting is driven by the real world or severely abstracted stereotypes of what young people *think* is adult behavior. > < But it

Re: [FRIAM] Pondering the slang Adulting

simulation, which helps us weigh our options and make rational decisions. Adulting is no different than simulated annealing. On November 14, 2018 12:27:49 PM PST, Marcus Daniels wrote: >There's always Frank Abagnale for inspiration, but some roles are >harder and ris

Re: [FRIAM] Pondering the slang Adulting

Glen writes: < The real trick is whether adulting is driven by the real world or severely abstracted stereotypes of what young people *think* is adult behavior. > < But it doesn't change the conclusion that playing the role of an adult is distinct from being an adult. And I maintain that

Re: [FRIAM] Pondering the slang Adulting

Glen writes; < But isn't this the point of things like "kin selection" and "eusociality"? Hell, even *cats* share food and negotiate territory. Is there, in actuality, anything that's "truly individualistic"? > Well, there is a difference between accurately observing that life is some way

Re: [FRIAM] Pondering the slang Adulting

Glen writes: < Role-playing is *always* useful and fixes many things. But my disagreement probably depends on what you mean by "simple fantasy". That seems loaded. > There's always Frank Abagnale for inspiration, but some roles are harder and riskier than others.Today I'm an Olympic

Re: [FRIAM] Pondering the slang Adulting

Glen writes: < I think this captures the irony in the youngsters' use of the word "adulting". It's a role and only a role. You sometimes *play* the role and you sometimes don't. It's like clothing you put on and take off ... much like an avatar in a video game. I think it's an

Re: [FRIAM] gerrymandering algorithm question

< Someone made an interesting point the other day ... something like "States are the most basic form of gerrymandering." > On one hand it seems plausible to me that complex systems need to develop membranes or modules to function at all. On the other hand, the kind of membranes that

Re: [FRIAM] gerrymandering algorithm question

] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 10:14 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gerrymandering algorithm question Consider a network where the nodes represent individual membership in a district and the edges connect any two

Re: [FRIAM] gerrymandering algorithm question

ral causes and politicians. TJ On Sun, Nov 4, 2018, 10:54 AM Marcus Daniels mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com> wrote: Why not put aside geography? For every democratic UC professor in Berkeley, draw a republican fracking executive from North Dakota. Now we have airplanes and the internet. All these tribe

Re: [FRIAM] Vote: The future of our nation depends on it | Letters To Editor | santafenewmexican.com

hology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 10:00 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Vote: The future

Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

Nick, One approach is to run a program that converts the system into a virtual machine image. There are different codes for this depending on your virtualization software. (vmware, hyper v, virtualbox, etc.) Then you get a big (!) folder representing your old system that you can put on an

Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

If the issue is bulk, most laptops will accept these cards: https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16820173374 Marcus On 10/10/18, 11:31 AM, "Nick Thompson" wrote: Thanks, everybody. In my world, hyperspeed is not a big deal. The big deal for this 80 year old is cognitive

Re: [FRIAM] do animals psychologize?

al Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 3:23 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] do animals psychologize? I wasn't making a hypothesis about type, I was

Re: [FRIAM] do animals psychologize?

A couple articles in this week’s Science relating to the programmability of cells. http://science.sciencemag.org/content/361/6408/eaap8987 “This enables the design of cycles and developmental networks for engineering applications that require that cells exist in a particular state for an

Re: [FRIAM] do animals psychologize?

/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 1:24 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] do animals psychologize? A couple articles in this week’s Science relating to the programmability

Re: [FRIAM] do animals psychologize?

Glen writes: "I suppose my point is that these numbers, $60k, $51k, $90k seem wrong to me in some ... ethical? ... sense. " If we assume that more and more people will have cancer because people will live longer, and other diseases will have good treatments, then basically we're talking about

Re: [FRIAM] do animals psychologize?

e ... chip in the brain before brain in the laptop, an evolution not a revolution. So, programmatically controllable cells just seems like a natural step along the way ... much like the spittle bug's kidney and the built environments we all find surrounding us. On 9/21/18 7:53 AM, Marc

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

Owen writes: "The NFL paper certainly gave me some doubts but it seemed amazing how effective GA's, Ant Algorithms, and so on were .. at least in their own domain." GA's are not an effective way to solve NP-hard, high-dimensional constrained optimization problems (> 1000 variables).

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

"The question I'm now worried about is the facility/frequency with which cyclic graphs can be "simulated" by DAGs (which is why I implied that everywhere we think there might be a convergence to something "real" would require a monotonic parameter)" Uh, why? For example, compilation of a

Re: [FRIAM] Preference Order Ecosystems: was Trumpism

Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Preference Order Ecosystems: was Trumpism https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/01/07/the-philosopher-redefining-equality was a good read this morning, -- rec -- On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 9:36 PM Marcus Daniels mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

hip, social benefits and election rights because > immigrants get the same rights. It is a fear driven version of racism, sexism > or nationalism which can be used by any skilled demagogue to win elections. > - Jochen > > Original message From: Marcus Daniels > D

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

t", mostly believed only by the other (corralled) idiots. On 12/27/18 2:25 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Let's say there is a great woman, and through my heavy-handed intervention I > prevent her from becoming great. If you buy the idea that she was worthy of > that title, and you

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

< 1- Refusal to "know your enemy" and insistence on erroneous straw man characterizations of that enemy is exactly what will allow Trump to be re-elected. > This is like going to a store with a child psychopath who screams that you are "putting hands on them" until you consent to buy them the

Re: [FRIAM] Individualism

David remarks: "2- Individualism is about responsibility - not ego, not 'privilege' - and includes a deeply felt responsibility to aid others who's circumstances mandate such aid. Questioning the means of providing that aid is not an argument against providing it. (Same thing is true of

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

FWIW, I haven't seen Homecoming. On January 1, 2019 11:28:28 AM PST, Marcus Daniels wrote: >Watching Homecoming I found myself thinking, "Yes, so what's the big >deal?" > >On 12/31/18, 1:40 PM, "Friam on behalf of uǝlƃ ☣" > wro

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

Watching Homecoming I found myself thinking, "Yes, so what's the big deal?" On 12/31/18, 1:40 PM, "Friam on behalf of uǝlƃ ☣" wrote: We're getting closer EVERY DAY! https://psi-2020.org/ Oh, and if anyone needs a charity to toss some 2018 money at:

Re: [FRIAM] Statistical poser (aka fact checking is hard)

Robert writes: “Estimates vary by source, but fraction of opioid deaths that are suicide is around 20-30%” What I’d really like to know is how the fraction of opioid deaths occur with individuals that have no historical sign of mental illness at all, and would be described by their friends

Re: [FRIAM] Learning curves (was, Abduction)

Figure B is how R works, and Figure A describes a good student. On 1/2/19, 2:32 PM, "lrudo...@meganet.net" wrote: Nick wrote, in relevant part, > This reminds me of the misuse of the "learning curve" > metaphor. People speak of a steep learning curve as something to be >

Re: [FRIAM] on selection pressure

space. So, a better statement would be "selection pressure didn't accomplish what it was intended to accomplish." Right? > On 1/2/19 7:44 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > In this case, I would argue that selection pressure has accomplished nothing -- conservatis

Re: [FRIAM] Was: Abduction; Is Now: Dionysian and Apollonian Lives

Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 10:08 AM To: The Friday Morni

Re: [FRIAM] Statistical poser (aka fact checking is hard)

mind. From: Friam on behalf of Marcus Daniels Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Date: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 10:45 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Statistical poser (aka fact checking is hard) Dumb qu

Re: [FRIAM] Statistical poser (aka fact checking is hard)

Dumb question: Is there anything behind this besides an burst of legal prescriptions that created a self-reinforcing trend? Or are people actually going crazy? From: Friam on behalf of Robert Holmes Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Date: Wednesday, January 2,

Re: [FRIAM] Statistical poser (aka fact checking is hard)

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/23/books/review/neurotribes-by-steve-silberman.html On 1/2/19 12:33 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: Nick writes: “A mentally ill individual is one whose behavior is so annoying that other individuals are willing to cooperate to put him away?” Sure, in that case the “

Re: [FRIAM] Was: Abduction; Is Now: Dionysian and Apollonian Lives

Nick, I don't think the dichotomy is useful to understand or categorize why people seek experiences. Some seek them to feel better about going in circles (opiates), others to help them to go in some direction (stimulants), and others to see more possible directions (psychedelics).One can

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

There's also this thing one can do called `sleeping in', which tends to increase the probability of dream memory and/or lucid dreaming, at least for me. A built-in neuroplasticity mechanism complete with psychedelic phenomena and a safety mechanism of motor system deactivation. ( On 1/2/19,

Re: [FRIAM] on selection pressure

office: (505)995-0206 mobile: (505)577-5828 twitter: @simtable On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 9:49 AM Marcus Daniels mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: Hi Stephen, Thanks for the paper. I have some colleagues that study deceptive energy landscapes but it is a different literature. [I do like tr

Re: [FRIAM] Statistical poser (aka fact checking is hard)

ose behavior is so annoying that other individuals are willing to cooperate to put him away? Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Ma

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

David writes: < There is such a huge area of interesting, at least to me, research, and not just for therapeutic use, here that it annoys me when a combination of puritan morality and scientific elitism dismisses the entire subject. > On a computer, when I experiment with kernel modules or

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

"Challenge: I have tried and failed, so far, but can you pose the exact same set of metaphors but absent the military/violence words?" Go vs. Chess? P.S. Even Santa is doing it https://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/578959/shaman-santa/

Re: [FRIAM] Few of you ...

Glen writes: < So, to [mis]extrapolate all the way to social systems, a rally participant may not have much choice but to feel the adrenaline rush of chanting "Lock Him Up!". But where is the attractor in such a conception? > Some people participate in intramural sports or sing in a choir.

Re: [FRIAM] Few of you ...

ing with other people". If we simply decided these things are not attractors, then I think my problem dissolves. On 1/16/19 2:45 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Some people participate in intramural sports or sing in a choir.Such participation isn't about being the be

Re: [FRIAM] Few of you ...

Steve writes: < There may be psychochemical dynamical systems inside her body involved in maintaining "sight of you" and there likely *were* complex feedback loops in the intentional breeding of her ancestors as well as the natural selection environments that lead her first ancestor

Re: [FRIAM] Few of you ...

Steve writes: < My own experience with mob-behaviour is that there is something about *my* behaviour/instincts/breeding that has me avoiding mob behaviour. > When it was a matter of survival to have a pack for food and defense, it is not hard to see how a preference for membership in

Re: [FRIAM] Few of you ...

Glen writes: < So, one of our cats died on Wednesday. She went in for exploratory surgery to investigate a mass that was preventing food from moving from her stomach to her intestines. It was a pyloric adenoma the surgeon saw no good way to fix. So we killed her. The important question

Re: [FRIAM] Few of you ...

Glen writes: < My guess is the only people who have ordinary, practical understandings of the dying process are (critical care) nurses, hospice workers, etc. who see it often. And even though they aren't dying, our (intra-species) "mind reading" might give them enough to work on. > The

Re: [FRIAM] Few of you ...

Glen writes: < I can say much the same thing about my fellow cancer patients. Sitting in the infusion chair for 8 hours once a month for 2.5 years gives you a lot of time to get to know your fellow patients. They mostly had *zero* idea *what* was happening, despite the doctor's best

Re: [FRIAM] Few of you ...

Glen writes: < So, had Amy been to the vet more than a handful of times, then there's reason to believe she would recognize a sickness-treatment-health process. But there's no way she could recognize the dying process. > I suppose I am defining the dying process in an ordinary, practical

Re: [FRIAM] Few of you ...

Glen writes: "But I seem to meet a lot of people who truly *enjoy* being in and playing on teams." https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/12/people-adopt-made-up-social-rules-to-be-part-of-a-group/ Marcus FRIAM Applied Complexity

Re: [FRIAM] Few of you ...

If you were really antisocial, you wouldn't care how you seem. It seems to me this is more a tactic for executing conversations rather than a necessity. One could merely inhibit the self in various ways topic by topic. As for alcohol, it actually becomes easier for me to do this, as my

Re: [FRIAM] Few of you ...

sh.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 9:40 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Few of you ... Glen writes: "But I seem to meet a lot of people who truly *enjoy* being in and playing on teams." https://arstech

Re: [FRIAM] Few of you ...

Glen writes: < It's truly a breath of fresh air when I run across someone else who is willing to swap roles several times through a single conversation. > Why do there have to be roles and not just topics? Marcus FRIAM Applied

Re: [FRIAM] No fool like an old fool.

The latter has to do with system updates (Component Based Servicing), see URL below. It might be there is some anomaly in how your machine is taking bug-fixes from Microsoft, e.g. a patch got misapplied somehow and created a cascade of problems. The former is probably just caching from your

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

Dear Pollyanna, It will end and we’ll all learn an important lesson? Whew, I was worried there for a minute! Thanks, Marcus From: Friam on behalf of Jochen Fromm Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Date: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 at 6:53 AM To: The Friday

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

Steve writes: "Democracy is the tyranny of the majority over the minority" The majority elected Hillary Clinton. Marcus FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

with corollaries of "anti-government control-ism," "personal-responsibility-ism," and "my-values-are-just-as-valid-as-yours-ism." davew On Wed, Dec 26, 2018, at 9:36 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: Dear Pollyanna, It will end and we’ll all learn an important less

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

David writes: “And it would serve "the opposition" to get a clue about the fact that the vast majority of Trump supporters do not suffer from racism, sexism, 'genderism', "me-first-ism," etc. Instead recognize that their primary affliction is individualism - and even libertarian-ism (despite

Re: [FRIAM] Doug Robert's death

Keeping up direct online public communication up until the end seems to be more common and it makes the end seem especially abrupt. Documenting a longer decline is upsetting in a different way.

Re: [FRIAM] two books

Speaking as a utilitarian, what bothers me is that entanglement should be impossible. It says something about the fabric of space time that should be impossible. If it is not impossible, then there must be some exploitable properties of the universe that need to be investigated because they

Re: [FRIAM] two books

Well, I think there is something really surprising (unexplained) about the reality of long range communication using quantum key distribution. There is something really surprising about the possibility of truly random numbers. It is accepting these concepts that I see as mysticism, even if

Re: [FRIAM] How they survived: IOwners of the few homes left standing around Paradise, Calif., took critical steps to ward off wildfires - The Washington Post

Someone probably has run a simulation! ☺ https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6474390988050829313/ From: Friam on behalf of Nick Thompson Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Date: Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 10:20 AM To: Friam Cc: "Steve G."

Re: [FRIAM] Open Letter

...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 5:23 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Open Letter Nick writes: “But education, to a very large degree and in the very long run, pays for itself in economic benefits

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

yourselves? N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 2:20 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

Nick writes: “Much better, perhaps, than I understand software engineers.” I would be surprised if anyone in this conversation identifies as a software engineer. The complement of that to me seems weird: It’s like declaring a person that can’t swim or drive a car, or would look in a manual

[FRIAM] pick on someone your own size

My take: There is nothing at stake here, go do something useful. https://www.vox.com/2018/10/15/17951492/grievance-studies-sokal-squared-hoax FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

My rule of thumb is that if they have to take time out to `identify' me, they aren't interested in a conversation anyway. They are just interested in where/if I fit in their pecking order or in their tedious, error-prone mental filing system. Best for both of us if we don't communicate!

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 2:10 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

Steve writes: < I happen to be reading Rebecca Solnit's "A Paradise Built in Hell" which is a deep dive into the theme of how people (sometimes) show their best while suffering great disasters. Particularly in the area of community spirit and synergistic cooperation. She anecdotally and

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

If there were a deep state it would have disappeared this guy. Hierarchical systems are way too efficient. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe

Re: [FRIAM] Another few ponderances

There are lots of papers on this. Here’s are some: https://www.pnas.org/content/108/7/3017 https://www.karger.com/Article/Abstract/316648 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0306452209012019?via%3Dihub

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

Steve writes: < On the other hand, as I always ask conspiracy theorists, "what if his presence in this role *serves* the Deep State?" > To clarify, I’m talking about the hypothesis of a Deep State that breaks rules as they need to be broken to advance the general welfare of people in the

Re: [FRIAM] Another few ponderances

I’d say the mental boost (from exercise) doesn’t kick-in until 45 minutes of sustained, reasonably-intense aerobic effort for me, and improves from there up until the point I get physically tired. The mania passes in about an hour. This is probably not just energy from the liver since I work

Re: [FRIAM] Another few ponderances

Glen writes: < It's interesting because I can't distinguish between a mental boost and a physical boost, from exercise, especially. > It's more a lifting of any feelings of despair that have accumulated through the day. I suspect testosterone is involved. Also I tend to increasingly

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

Steve writes: < And my original point still (might) hold(s) if we push the ends/means justification far enough. What if having Trump in office somehow *does* advance the general welfare of the people (and sentient animals) in the country and the world? Sort of a "back fire" against the

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

nd Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2019 12:14 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Co

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

oyee level of scale, though most are 100-700 employees. davew On Thu, Jan 3, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: "There has been a growing interest in business management with regard organizational structures that can be rapidly reorganized in response to change and the demand for innov

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

ers reimposed their control via end runs that mandated Scrum and Lean as integral elements. davew On Fri, Jan 4, 2019, at 8:38 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: Like the air traffic control example. Need more situations in which respect of peers and a shared ethic is more important than what a man

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

managers they may feel defeated and will at least want to appear to be compliant. From: Friam on behalf of Marcus Daniels Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Date: Friday, January 4, 2019 at 8:58 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Thursday, January 03, 201

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

Eric writes: "I also love his characterization of the core message of Putin: We are shit. You are shit. It’s all bullshit. What democracy?” If it is all bullshit, then why not steal Putin's stuff? You know, just for shits and grins. I guess if people are just demoralized and terrified

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

< As to the ethics dimension; you quoted one of Adam's reviewers: "But, when I was in school, we always discussed ethical responsibility of the persuader and Adams does not. As long as Trump was persuasive he was going to win and that’s what matters." > He’s not persuasive. His arguments are

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

David writes: < I am in fact saying that avoiding the disaster is what matters and we might have prevented the disaster if we had recognized and addressed the factors that made it inevitable instead of wailing and gnashing teeth about the driver being a drunk sex offender working for a company

Re: [FRIAM] !RE: A million tech jobs unfilled

Glen writes: < I interviewed one of his mentors there and, although the model *seems* good, they're similarly plagued with the grant-writing burden Eric(S) and Pamela mention. The same seems similar at a company, here called Galois. > That's my impression of Galois as well, that they do a lot

Re: [FRIAM] !RE: A million tech jobs unfilled

David writes: < Reacting to Glen's comments: of that million tech jobs, how many are really necessary. Speaking only within the context of software development, I am certain that 70-90 percent of existing jobs and unfilled jobs could be eliminated. > < We have known since the seventies that

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

Nick writes: < Geez, Dave. I might have put it the other way. People are persuasive as hell; they just aren’t communicating. > There’s nothing left to talk about. Progressive states and municipalities just need to insulate themselves as much as possible from the rest, and encourage

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

nyone to be persuasive. davew On Thu, Jan 10, 2019, at 6:03 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: < As to the ethics dimension; you quoted one of Adam's reviewers: "But, when I was in school, we always discussed ethical responsibility of the persuader and Adams does not. As long as Trump was per

Re: [FRIAM] !RE: A million tech jobs unfilled

Steve writes: < She is very suspicious of industry since it is almost exclusively big-Pharma and is (as a researcher directly, and by extension in her loyalty to the fundamental research she is involved in) the victim of *their* voracious nature. As a new parent and primary

Re: [FRIAM] !RE: A million tech jobs unfilled

Glen writes: To what extent is a person simply a *vehicle* for innovations to bubble up through? Steve writes: < It is interesting to see similar if not identical awareness coming from the likes of you. I'm not sure what an Ark implies for you. > The Ark I imagine is a minimal platform to

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

Some counter examples: 1) You do not have the potential to fully informed. The governments of China or Iran would never give you access to their classified data, for example. Heck, the US government probably wouldn't either with all your discussion of psychedelics and what not! 2) You

Re: [FRIAM] models, reality, etc.

Entanglement is probabilistic: Look for a dot at some location, if you see one, then there's a probability of seeing another dot at another location, and a different probability if you don't. On 1/12/19, 11:53 AM, "Friam on behalf of Prof David West" wrote: This popped up elsewhere

Re: [FRIAM] strawman fallacy

Glen writes: < Such wilting rhetoric makes an actual individualist like the Unabomber seem more upstanding and trustworthy ... and that inference is just plain dangerous. > He gave a coherent description of this aspect of the individualist psychology and a need for dignity above all else.

Re: [FRIAM] Preference Order Ecosystems: was Trumpism

The political doctrine of liberalism aims to increase the freedom of the individual. The institutions and rules that optimize for this freedom must be evaluated in aggregate and so for every increase of one group must be understood for a decrease in freedom of another group.It is a very

Re: [FRIAM] Preference Order Ecosystems: was Trumpism

Ron wrote: < I wrote a layman's blog post on a similar idea, "On the Importance of Idiots", speculating that societal chaos might be moving the solution space out of local minima into novel areas in the solution space, and that the process might be solving for long-term resiliency of the

Re: [FRIAM] An Overview of Dark Matter – Sasha Manu – Medium

"Here's a link I'd like to share with Friam--very different thoughts for the New Year. https://breakermag.com/trapped-at-sea-with-cryptos-nouveau-riche/ " Hilarious article. Truth is I'd probably be tired of her too (and vice versa) after the ordeal if I had been along for the trip. Not

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

Nick writes: < Ok, Marcus, I am standing my ground as a realist here: ():-[) > There you go trying to claim semantics for terms in a public dictionary again. (That’s an example of taking ground, like in my Go example.)Doing so constrains what can even be said. It puts the skeptic in

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

Nick writes: < One solution I am exploring is trying to make every assertion that something is real into a three valued assertion including point of view. > Confounding variables, like your example with Simpson’s Paradox. In functional programming, the life history of said person’s evolving

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

to accurately reflect on themselves. From: Friam on behalf of Marcus Daniels Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Date: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 2:10 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction Nick writes

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