Re: [fricas-devel] Noweb and literate programming

2013-08-07 Thread Martin Baker
On 06/08/13 15:29, Bertfried Fauser wrote: > b) Meta understanding: Many complex scientific problems, like in a > CAS, need quite >a lot of mathematical pre-knowledge and possibly also a proof, that > they will do what >they promise to do. However, computing as-such does *not* require > the

Re: [fricas-devel] Noweb and literate programming

2013-08-06 Thread Waldek Hebisch
Bill Page wrote: > > On 5 August 2013 14:20, Waldek Hebisch wrote: > > I think that we should get rid of noweb and declare > > past attempt at literate programming as a failure. > > More precisely, noweb markup is causing troubles. > > They are not big troubles, but AFAICS we are getting > > esse

Re: [fricas-devel] Noweb and literate programming

2013-08-06 Thread Bertfried Fauser
Hi, sorry to hear this literate discussion again and now with this vector about it. I like literate programs as they do improve programming help maintenance and many other things. The present discussion may lack some practical aspects, which I list below: a) many scientific programs start as ha

Re: [fricas-devel] Noweb and literate programming

2013-08-06 Thread Eugene Surowitz
Your efforts are not for nought; however, you missed the same thing that Knuth missed: The AXIOM/FRICAS/OpenAXIOM situation is the inverse problem to working with an already literate program. The panAXIOM problem is how to create a literate program from an pre-literate one. Knuth fudged this wi

Re: [fricas-devel] Noweb and literate programming

2013-08-06 Thread Martin Baker
On 5 August 2013 14:20, Waldek Hebisch wrote: >> I think that we should get rid of noweb and declare >> past attempt at literate programming as a failure. >> More precisely, noweb markup is causing troubles. >> They are not big troubles, but AFAICS we are getting >> essentially no value from noweb

Re: [fricas-devel] Noweb and literate programming

2013-08-05 Thread Bill Page
On 5 August 2013 14:20, Waldek Hebisch wrote: > I think that we should get rid of noweb and declare > past attempt at literate programming as a failure. > More precisely, noweb markup is causing troubles. > They are not big troubles, but AFAICS we are getting > essentially no value from noweb so w

Re: [fricas-devel] Noweb and literate programming

2013-08-05 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
Waldek Hebisch writes: | I think that we should get rid of noweb and declare | past attempt at literate programming as a failure. | More precisely, noweb markup is causing troubles. | They are not big troubles, but AFAICS we are getting | essentially no value from noweb so why bother with | it?

[fricas-devel] Noweb and literate programming

2013-08-05 Thread Waldek Hebisch
I think that we should get rid of noweb and declare past attempt at literate programming as a failure. More precisely, noweb markup is causing troubles. They are not big troubles, but AFAICS we are getting essentially no value from noweb so why bother with it? -- Wal