Re: [Full-disclosure] Referers Are Evil

2005-08-07 Thread Brian Dessent
Ripe Md wrote: > With referers (HTTP_REFERER) it is easy to takeover sessions in some > Web applications Forums (phpBB) and so far. The natural conclusion would be that storing such session information as part of the URL is what is evil, not the concept of the referer. It also violates the ideal

Re: [Full-disclosure] Referers Are Evil

2005-08-07 Thread Tim
> What if regular users are behind rotating proxies (e.g., AOL)? :-) ...or on the same network with NAT. ...or on the same network segment with no NAT... steal cookie, the proceed to steal the victim's IP with ARP poisoning... tim ___ Full-Disclosure

Re: [Full-disclosure] Referers Are Evil

2005-08-07 Thread Steve Friedl
On Sun, Aug 07, 2005 at 10:54:55PM +0200, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote: > What if the attacker is behind the same proxy? What if regular users are behind rotating proxies (e.g., AOL)? :-) Steve ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.g

Re: [Full-disclosure] Referers Are Evil

2005-08-07 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky
* Vincent van Scherpenseel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-08-07 22:41 +0200]: > On Sunday 07 August 2005 20:27, Bipin Gautam wrote: > > > BUT, i remember testing it on PHPBB back then, i don't think you can > > take over the session on that! (i may be wrong). YAP, but there are > > LOTS of sites & appl

Re: [Full-disclosure] Referers Are Evil

2005-08-07 Thread Vincent van Scherpenseel
On Sunday 07 August 2005 20:27, Bipin Gautam wrote: > BUT, i remember testing it on PHPBB back then, i don't think you can > take over the session on that! (i may be wrong). YAP, but there are > LOTS of sites & applications out there from which you can easily steal > away sessions. Well, if the c

Re: [Full-disclosure] Referers Are Evil

2005-08-07 Thread Bipin Gautam
this was my best kept secret! (o; BUT, i remember testing it on PHPBB back then, i don't think you can take over the session on that! (i may be wrong). YAP, but there are LOTS of sites & applications out there from which you can easily steal away sessions. On 8/7/05, Ripe Md <[EMAIL PROTECTE

[Full-disclosure] [HAT-SQUAD][Release] Tiny MSN fuzzer (passwd demo)

2005-08-07 Thread ad
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 /* C:\>msn_fuzzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] testpasswd [.] Resolving.: messenger.hotmail.com = 65.54.239.140 [.] Connected.: 207.46.4.25:1863 [.] HTTPS.: unauthorized (login/passwd) [.] Disconnection.. C:\>msn_fuzzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] testpass

[Full-disclosure] Referers Are Evil

2005-08-07 Thread Ripe Md
With referers (HTTP_REFERER) it is easy to takeover sessions in some Web applications Forums (phpBB) and so far. If an user of such an application doesn't allow the use of cookies, the session informations are mostly transportet over the URL. If somebody else places a Hyperlink for example in a For

Re: Re[2]: [Full-disclosure] Weird URL

2005-08-07 Thread Bipin Gautam
similar is true in IE i guess. I think i've seen if you type... invaliddomain.com.tld it might redirect you to invaliddomain.com.tld.netetc. (if it happens to be a valid domain) if the default searchengine is MSN whatever it is... it doesn't look very good to me! On 8/6/05, Seth Brun

Re: Re[2]: [Full-disclosure] Weird URL

2005-08-07 Thread Bipin Gautam
similar is true in IE i guess. I think i've seen if you type... invaliddomain.com.tld it might redirect you to invaliddomain.com.tld.netetc. whatever it is... it doesn't look very good to me! On 8/6/05, Seth Brundle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -Original Message- > From