Hey n3td3v/ureleet,
Lets keep working on the offline resolution of the personal issues here,
before we continue back on the mailing list. This will be for the better of
security research industry.
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On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 3:27 AM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Its time to break the n
Just noting that I was contacted offline by the author of this tool, and
informed that the project will have regular updates. those looking forward
to it's progress will be glad.
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This is just to inform the list that I'm in the process of discussions with
the quoted individuals offline, and have made progress in increasing the
signal to noise ratio of the full-disclosure mailing list.
(As to the current progress, we're discussing if the rival list n3td3v on
google groups ma
> I'm being targeted by some Blackhat group called Ureleet, I think he
> hates white hats. He's trying to ruin my career by talking about
> copyrights etc. If he makes allegations against me publicly, then i've
> got to respond publicly to the allegations.
>
What career is that then?
Do you reall
Hi John/List,
This is highly unnecessary. As I've already informed the list, I'm in
discussions with n3td3v and other parties for a speedy resolution to some of
the FD issues. Exercises like the one you've outline are meant to fail, and
increase the signal to noise ratio. These games are best kept
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:38:52PM +0100, niclas wrote:
> Today I received a phishing mail containing a link which obscures the
> IP-address as a hexadecimal number. The URL looks like this:
>
> http:// 0x ded 6d8a1/www.paypal.com/int ... /index.htm
>
> (Spaces added to circumvent phishing filters.
===
Ubuntu Security Notice USN-680-1 November 27, 2008
samba vulnerability
CVE-2008-4314
===
A security issue affects the following Ubuntu releases:
Ubuntu 8.10
This advisory
I'd say that the DNS TID problem was a much more solvable problem than the
problem Microsoft has with NTLM:
At least with the TID issue, a fix was identified that did not break
interoperability with legacy systems. No such luck with NTLM. Since the only
"fix" identified so far is completely d
what makes u think i m a group? just because u think u r a group, and
u r 1 person doesn't make me schizophrenic 2.
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 6:49 PM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:22 PM, niclas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> no one gives a flying fuck about the pis
mikie, u said it.
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 6:19 AM, Michael Simpson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'm being targeted by some Blackhat group called Ureleet, I think he
>> hates white hats. He's trying to ruin my career by talking about
>> copyrights etc. If he makes allegations against me publicly,
mike c, u r as naive as u r stupid.
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Mike C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi John/List,
>
> This is highly unnecessary. As I've already informed the list, I'm in
> discussions with n3td3v and other parties for a speedy resolution to some of
> the FD issues. Exercises
just write original shit. u can quote other articles, but u have to
write original shit surrounding it. anyone can post. anyone can
critize. u cant cut and paste.
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 8:51 PM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: n3td3v <[EMAIL
stfu.
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 2:53 AM, Mike C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey n3td3v/ureleet,
>
> Lets keep working on the offline resolution of the personal issues here,
> before we continue back on the mailing list. This will be for the better of
> security research industry.
>
> --
> MC
>
> On
like i said, so because every1 else is doing it, u r going 2 do it
too? yeah, thats a good legal argument. let me know what happens
when u try that excuse against the police when u say u were going as
fast as every1 else.
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 4:43 PM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As th
n3td3v, just because every1 else is doing it, does not make u allowed
2 do it. if u r a white hat, do the right thing and write original
material.
if u have some.
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 5:44 PM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Now that Ureleet has told me im breaking the law I don't know wh
ah yes, we'll take legal advice from a guy on FD. noted.
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 2:51 AM, Mike C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have previously had long discussions with a lawyer friend, who has assured
> me that it is quite alright for copyrighted material to be quoted for
> critical analysis. T
use otr.
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 4:04 PM, AMILABS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Andrew, according to AOL policy and terms of use et. al.
>
> "Your AIM information, including the contents of your online communications,
> may be accessed and disclosed in response to legal process (for example,
just post original material. the fact is that u *could* be sued for
lost revenue and violation of license. if u blog it, or write it, u
could then make an argument, but blatant copy n pasting is just plain
wrong.
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 6:17 PM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gadi Evron don
How about you and Netdev email each other off list that would help my spam
folder greatly.
P.S Happy Turkey day!
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-Original Message-
From: Ureleet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:55:16
To: AMILABS<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc:
Subject: Re
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:16 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How about you and Netdev email each other off list that would help my spam
> folder greatly.
>
> P.S Happy Turkey day!
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
how about u read what the topic is, and what i wrote, and learn how 2
I urge you to ban [EMAIL PROTECTED] from full-disclosure with immediate effect.
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How about we take a vote on who needs to be removed instead.
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:45 PM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I urge you to ban [EMAIL PROTECTED] from full-disclosure with immediate
> effect.
>
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That's pretty much guaranteed. But then maybe John would be forced to
finally take action and remove the two people around which 96% of the
trouble on FD revolves. For that, I'd be willing to deal with the chaos.
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Bill Reyor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sounds like
I am a serious security researcher who runs the n3td3v security group,
don't remove me. I think its obvious to everyone who should be
removed. I am not going to stand for my reputation to be smeared a
minute longer by aliases.
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 7:07 PM, vulcanius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
I'd say that the DNS TID problem was a much more solvable problem than the
problem Microsoft has with NTLM:
At least with the TID issue, a fix was identified that did not break
interoperability with legacy systems. No such luck with NTLM. Since the only
"fix" identified so far is completely d
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On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:45 PM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I urge you to ban [EMAIL PROTECTED] from full-disclosure with immediate
> effect.
funny. i asked him 2 do the same thing 2 u about 6 months ago. i c
where that got us.
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On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 1:32 PM, vulcanius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How about we take a vote on who needs to be removed instead.
ill leave if he does.
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On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:45 PM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I urge you to ban [EMAIL PROTECTED] from full-disclosure with immediate
> effect.
y u want me banned anyway? scared?
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On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:45 PM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I urge you to ban [EMAIL PROTECTED] from full-disclosure with immediate
> effect.
funny. i asked him 2 do the same thing 2 u about 6 months ago. i c
where that got us.
-
Like I said email
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 6:19 PM, andrew. wallace
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am a serious security researcher who runs the n3td3v security group,
> don't remove me. I think its obvious to everyone who should be
> removed. I am not going to stand for my reputation to be smeared a
> minute longer
You're the one who can't type properly because you're too scared
people will identify you.
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 1:35 AM, Ureleet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> y u want me banned anyway? scared?
>
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> Like I said email off list.but the funny thing is I would vote against
> you if I had to, all you do is complaint the lease you can do is post some
> news articles..
fair enuff. i can c that. dont blame u. when this is all over, ill
happily retire. until that time, whatever that ti
Do I look scared from someone who can't even type properly or use his
real name? I think we all know who the scared one is and it isn't me.
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 1:35 AM, Ureleet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> y u want me banned anyway? scared?
>
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On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 8:48 PM, andrew. wallace
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Do I look scared from someone who can't even type properly or use his
> real name? I think we all know who the scared one is and it isn't me.
wtf does my typing style have 2 do w/ shit? matter of fact, ur right,
im scar
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 8:42 PM, andrew. wallace
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You're the one who can't type properly because you're too scared
> people will identify you.
least of my problems kid. is this email alias u, or not? we've seen
about 3 or 4 differnet "n3tdev" aliases over teh years.
To clear the air you would type properly and use your real name.
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 1:35 AM, Ureleet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> prove this is u.
>
> o, and what have u researched again? just to clear the air.
>
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On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 8:56 PM, andrew. wallace
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To clear the air you would type properly and use your real name.
deflecting again i c. fuck typing. fuck u and fuck my real name.
matter of fact, fuck ur real name. i dont give a shit. we know who u
r, and we really
n3td3v/andrew wallace of the uk
u r a waste of time. a waste of air. i m done w/ u.
u wont admit u know nothing, u dont do anything worth a thing. u dont
do anything original
hell, u dont even blog original shit.
if ur goal was 2 get me to leave, u win. im out. i think ive proved
my point.
> so, for now, i am gone. n3td3v, u r a disgrace 2 the community by
> calling urself 1 of us.
>
I really wish you would stay. You and n3td3v are destroying
the full-disclosure community. That's a good thing. Keep
bantering, please.
Also, change your e-mail address every few weeks so people
have
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 9:30 PM, don bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You and n3td3v are destroying
> the full-disclosure community. That's a good thing.
now, *there* is a good topic 4 discussion!
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On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 8:00 AM, don bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > so, for now, i am gone. n3td3v, u r a disgrace 2 the community by
> > calling urself 1 of us.
> >
>
> I really wish you would stay. You and n3td3v are destroying
> the full-disclosure community. That's a good thing. Keep
>
> n3td3v has agreed to use his real name, and ureleet is thus lesser
> pissed. We'll have to wait and see on the change in the content that is
> posted, and my hope is that full disclosure's SNR will drastically improve.
>
Full-Disclosure is doomed. You can not apply diplomacy to
someone that t
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Mike C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No,
>
> It took a lot of effort on my part for all this to happen, and the
> discussions have paid off. Big thanks to all who've pinged me online for my
> diplomatic efforts.
wait, lets b entirely clear. u didnt do a damn thin
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:07 PM, don bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Full-Disclosure is doomed. You can not apply diplomacy to
> someone that thinks you and the community you belong to
> are a joke.
so u think that fulld is bad? y?
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Ureleet wrote:
> so u think that fulld is bad? y?
>
I'll leave you and n3td3v to argue the possibilities.
I sure hope Valdis will also chime in with *long*
*interesting* *arguments* relevant to *modern* *day*
perceptions on *real* *life* *security*.
D
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On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 13:07, don bailey wrote:
> > n3td3v has agreed to use his real name, and ureleet is thus lesser
> > pissed. We'll have to wait and see on the change in the content that is
> > posted, and my hope is that full disclosure's SNR will drastically improve.
> >
>
> Full-Disclos
TBH, i have joined those mailing lists for a reason... when it comes to
something out of topic and ridiculous enough, I DONT ANSWER (but right now
im fed up :@). I think you should all do the same..
IMHO this keeps going because someone replies what if only 2-4 people
spoke on such matters? Th
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