Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread Avraham Schneider
s/neiboring/neighboring/g On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Avraham Schneider wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 8:18 AM, j-f sentier wrote: > >> >You can go to the Kneset website and find out. >> Oh so there's a website dedicated to the one who didn't get corrupted ? >> Oh come on , you know

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread Avraham Schneider
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 8:18 AM, j-f sentier wrote: > >You can go to the Kneset website and find out. > Oh so there's a website dedicated to the one who didn't get corrupted ? > Oh come on , you know what i'm talking about your ""country"" is driven by > that . > There is corruption everywere -

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread j-f sentier
>You can go to the Kneset website and find out. Oh so there's a website dedicated to the one who didn't get corrupted ? Oh come on , you know what i'm talking about your ""country"" is driven by that . >>Oh Oh Oh, you dont like to play the propaganda game with me ? >No I don't. i understand that

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread Avraham Schneider
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 8:01 AM, j-f sentier wrote: > haha, how much time this took you to say that ? > You're paied to make propaganda on FD this more than clear. > you dont answer on any real questions You obviously ignore everything I write > , you say always the same stuff No - I answer y

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread j-f sentier
haha, how much time this took you to say that ? You're paied to make propaganda on FD this more than clear. you dont answer on any real questions, you say always the same stuff, aka yeah but hamas was elected by palestinian so palestinian should die, but know what , not talking about war anymore he

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread Avraham Schneider
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 7:36 AM, j-f sentier wrote: > You're fake dude. > > You're defending blindly what's not defendable, and you're not dumb enought > for that, so you're paid by someone. > If blindly is defined giving you clear facts - and not defendable is defined as self defense... Regardi

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread Avraham Schneider
I guess I can't prove that I don't, so what can I say... Do you have anything you find incorrect in what I have responded to you, or you are done with your nonsense and the list can go back to being a Computer Security Mailing List? On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 7:32 AM, j-f sentier wrote: > You are

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread Avraham Schneider
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyC-z0b6L5Y On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 6:21 AM, j-f sentier wrote: > Okay so hamas are totally the bad guys.But let's reverse this out. > Who have stolen them land via some warsss around ? > We do not talk about british land taken from the otoman or so , just > pales

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread Avraham Schneider
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 4:14 AM, Mainbox Notif wrote: > > > 2009/1/17 Avraham Schneider : >> > >> > Civilians who decide to stay in a war zone after being warned to leave >> > and/or stay next to terrorists firing rockets at Israelis are at risk of >> > being killed. >> > > Do you really believe

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread j-f sentier
You're fake dude. You're defending blindly what's not defendable, and you're not dumb enought for that, so you're paid by someone. 2009/1/18 Avraham Schneider > > > On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 4:10 AM, j-f sentier wrote: > >> wrote: >> >> Just hours after the cease-fire announcement Hamas fired 7

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread Avraham Schneider
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 4:10 AM, j-f sentier wrote: > wrote: > > Just hours after the cease-fire announcement Hamas fired 7 rockets into > Israel > > Sure it's always more fun when you can fire at them like rabbits. > > Hamas are really bad terrorists, after tsahal killed 1000 civilians with > p

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread j-f sentier
You are paid to say that Avraham, and it's a shame. 2009/1/18 Avraham Schneider > > > On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 2:00 AM, andrew. wallace < > andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com> wrote: > >> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Avraham Schneider >> wrote: >> > they don't have the time to find out if it is

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread Avraham Schneider
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 2:00 AM, andrew. wallace < andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Avraham Schneider > wrote: > > they don't have the time to find out if it is a UN building > > I find that hard to believe with the amount of intelligence the Israeli's > h

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread Avraham Schneider
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:58 AM, Prototype This wrote: > 2009/1/17 Avraham Schneider : > > Show me 1 country that would act differently. > > > > The soldiers who returned fire did not know there were civilians in the > > building. They were responding to fire being shot at them during a war > fro

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread ghost
yes, let me make a point favoring my political views then say take it off the list... that's smart! israel deserves to be wiped off the map, and America should be first in line to do it. We do nothing but support israel and look where it has landed us. Not only has it landed us at war with israeli

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread j-f sentier
Okay so hamas are totally the bad guys.But let's reverse this out. Who have stolen them land via some warsss around ? We do not talk about british land taken from the otoman or so , just palestine how it was in 1948 and how it is now Please wake up dude. 2009/1/17 Paul Schmehl > --On January 1

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread j-f sentier
Okay so hamas are totally the bad guys.But let's reverse this out. Who have stolen them land via some warsss around ? We do not talk about british land taken from the otoman or so , just palestine how it was in 1948 and how it is now Please wake up dude. 2009/1/17 Paul Schmehl > --On January 1

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On January 17, 2009 5:41:15 PM -0600 "andrew.wallace" wrote: > > If the enemy creates a human shield, you don't fire into the human > shield. Israel did. Yes, you do. The civilians have become legal combatants if you are being fired upon. Hamas is guilty of so many war crimes it would be i

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread j-f sentier
This makes no sens at all, i'm sure he's payed to push some propaganda on FD 2009/1/17 Mainbox Notif > This is an automatic respons. > > I'm not interested anymore in this discussion. That's the reason I > filtered this messages in my mailprogram. > > I'm not interested because it is not possibl

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread Mainbox Notif
See the Red Cross Website about the civilians: http://www.icrc.org/eng ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread Mainbox Notif
2009/1/17 Avraham Schneider : > > > Civilians who decide to stay in a war zone after being warned to leave > > and/or stay next to terrorists firing rockets at Israelis are at risk of > > being killed. > Do you really believe that civilians go to an area they being warned that the israeli going t

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread j-f sentier
wrote: Just hours after the cease-fire announcement Hamas fired 7 rockets into Israel Sure it's always more fun when you can fire at them like rabbits. Hamas are really bad terrorists, after tsahal killed 1000 civilians with phosphore bombs, it's sure that 7 home made rocket fired with some old

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread andrew . wallace
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Avraham Schneider wrote: > they don't have the time to find out if it is a UN building I find that hard to believe with the amount of intelligence the Israeli's have. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Avraham Schneider wrote: > and/or if there are civilians ins

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread Prototype This
2009/1/17 Avraham Schneider : > Show me 1 country that would act differently. > > The soldiers who returned fire did not know there were civilians in the > building. They were responding to fire being shot at them during a war from > a building - they don't have the time to find out if it is a UN b

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread Avraham Schneider
Show me 1 country that would act differently. The soldiers who returned fire did not know there were civilians in the building. They were responding to fire being shot at them during a war from a building - they don't have the time to find out if it is a UN building or not and/or if there are civi

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread andrew . wallace
If the enemy creates a human shield, you don't fire into the human shield. Israel did. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Avraham Schneider wrote: > What do you consider as war crimes? > > On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:15 AM, andrew. wallace > wrote: > Hopefully Israel will get charged with war crime

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread Avraham Schneider
Just hours after the cease-fire announcement Hamas fired 7 rockets into Israel - I find it hard to believe Israel will pull out of Gaza any time soon... On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:27 AM, andrew. wallace < andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com> wrote: > I've heard analysts say the ceasefire was always plan

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread Avraham Schneider
considering this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmXXUOs27lI I find the IDF much more credible than the UN. On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:01 AM, j-f sentier wrote: > Yeah sure from the UN building. > What was the excuse this time ? > The palestinian janitor working in the building was hidding some w

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread andrew . wallace
I've heard analysts say the ceasefire was always planned for tonight ahead of Barack Obama's inauguration on Tuesday. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Avraham Schneider wrote: > until Hamas decides to fire at Israeli civilians again... > > On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:03 AM, andrew. wallace > wrot

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread Avraham Schneider
you don't seem to care for Hamas being charged for war crimes, do you? I guess firing rockets for 8 years at civilian targets (actively trying to kill civilians) does not count as a war crime for you. What do you consider as war crimes? Protecting your own civilians from terrorists hiding behind c

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread andrew . wallace
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 11:01 PM, j-f sentier wrote: > the UN building. > What was the excuse this time ? Hopefully Israel will get charged with war crimes. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-chart

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread Avraham Schneider
until Hamas decides to fire at Israeli civilians again... On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:03 AM, andrew. wallace < andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Avraham Schneider > wrote: > > I think Israel is doing good so far, they should keep up the good work. > > Israel

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread andrew . wallace
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Avraham Schneider wrote: > I think Israel is doing good so far, they should keep up the good work. Israel has achieved its aims and a unilateral ceasefire will start at 0200 (2400 GMT). - BBC ___ Full-Disclosure - We b

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread j-f sentier
Yeah sure from the UN building. What was the excuse this time ? The palestinian janitor working in the building was hidding some weapon under his rag or what ? it's an UN building not a market place. Wake up dude you got brainwashed by tsahal once again 2009/1/17 Avraham Schneider > > > On Sun

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread Avraham Schneider
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 12:53 AM, j-f sentier wrote: > >>I think Israel is doing good so far, they should keep up the good work. > > > Yeah sure, 1 hospital, 1 school, and the UN building. > I guess the ""terrorists"" was hidden in the UN building, or the UN are > terrorist too ? The UN are not

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread j-f sentier
>>I think Israel is doing good so far, they should keep up the good work. Yeah sure, 1 hospital, 1 school, and the UN building. I guess the ""terrorists"" was hidden in the UN building, or the UN are terrorist too ? ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in i

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread Avraham Schneider
more than 60% of them armed terrorists hiding in a dense civilian area - some of them dressed up as doctors and shooting from UN and red-cross buildings. I think Israel is doing good so far, they should keep up the good work. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Handrix wrote: > Yes, as you say Ma

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread Prototype This
It a pity that Hitler didn't got the novel prize of peace. Zionist always are searching for problems from the time of prophets till nowadays. Hitler , Franco , Stalin , and now hamas all knew that without Zionist no war could happen. 2009/1/17 Handrix : > Yes, as you say Mainbox. > > Today Ehud Ol

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

2009-01-17 Thread Handrix
Yes, as you say Mainbox. Today Ehud Olmert said that he loved gaza's children,. after 22 days of war and deaths of more than 1,200 Palestinians. On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Mainbox Notif wrote: > Goodmorning everybody! > I dont know the time at yours, but here it is morning. > And it is