Re: [Full-disclosure] when did piracy/theft become expression of freedom

2012-01-29 Thread Charles Morris
Dear Valdis and whoever else; The really ridiculous points are the following: A) Every time you execute/install/download a program you are committing evil data theft by not only copying secret or illegal information into RAM/Disk/Registers/Buffers/Busses/photons coming off the screen/human

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2012-01-29 Thread Jerry dePriest
Metallica used to encourage fans to record bootlegs and share with those who didnt/wouldnt/couldnt attend the shows. Now look at them:-( Metallica sucks btw ever since their heads got to big to fit up thier asses. This was around the time Cliff died. The way they treated Jason Newsted was just

Re: [Full-disclosure] when did piracy/theft become expression of freedom

2012-01-29 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Charles Morris cmor...@cs.odu.edu wrote: Dear Valdis and whoever else; The really ridiculous points are the following: A) Every time you execute/install/download a program you are committing evil data theft by not only copying secret or illegal information

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2012-01-29 Thread Jerry dePriest
from the wikipedia link... An illegal prime is a kind of illegal number kind of? Just like pot is kind of illegal by the feds standards? just like sawed of shotguns are kind of illegal unless you have a permit? this whole situation needs a giant enema. bma

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Re: [Full-disclosure] when did piracy/theft become expression of freedom

2012-01-29 Thread coderman
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 2:26 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: ... For the record, all my media is legitimately acquired, i once saw Valdis rockin' out with headphones on - volume at 11, providing an unauthorized, non-personal broadcast of a copyright'ed composition to those near by. clearly

Re: [Full-disclosure] when did piracy/theft become expression of freedom

2012-01-29 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 04:53:12 EST, Charles Morris said: A) Every time you execute/install/download a program you are committing evil data theft by not only copying Actually, at least in the US, the copy into RAM required to execute a program is already covered in 17 USC 117 (a)(1).

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Re: [Full-disclosure] when did piracy/theft become expression of freedom

2012-01-29 Thread Byron L. Sonne
The thing that makes me laugh about all of this, and one of the key things I learned from reading Gibbon's Decline Fall is this: The number and frequency of laws passed regarding things directly relates to how widespread these things are, and how they much the laws are ignored and ineffective.

[Full-disclosure] This is when piracy/theft become expression of freedom

2012-01-29 Thread Byron L. Sonne
The thing that makes me laugh about all of this, and one of the key things I learned from reading Gibbon's Decline Fall is this: The number and frequency of laws passed regarding things directly relates to how widespread these things are, and how they much the laws are ignored and ineffective.

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Re: [Full-disclosure] This is when piracy/theft become expression of freedom

2012-01-29 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 18:18:59 EST, Byron L. Sonne said: I'm sure if the copyright lobby had their way, they'd require us to wear special glasses in order to see our laptop screens, on the assumption that anything not explicitly licensed was assumed to be unlicensed, and thus pirated, which we

Re: [Full-disclosure] when did piracy/theft become expression of freedom

2012-01-29 Thread Christian Sciberras
Byron, you don't protest to the government by burning down 100-year-old business, if you know what I mean... On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:12 AM, Byron L. Sonne byron.so...@gmail.comwrote: The thing that makes me laugh about all of this, and one of the key things I learned from reading

Re: [Full-disclosure] when did piracy/theft become expression of freedom

2012-01-29 Thread Mike Hale
What you said doesn't follow. Making a digital copy isn't burning down a business. The analogy linking 'piracy' with theft is ludicrous. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Christian Sciberras uuf6...@gmail.com wrote: Byron, you don't protest to the government by burning down 100-year-old