Re: [Full-disclosure] defining 0day

2007-09-25 Thread Brian Loe
On 9/25/07, Adrian Griffis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I understand why this descriptivist approach is tempting over a > prescriptivist approach. But it's important, I think, to keep in mind > that the public uses the word "illegal" when they really mean > "unlawful" and uses the word "Schizophr

Re: [Full-disclosure] defining 0day

2007-09-25 Thread Brian Loe
On 9/25/07, Gadi Evron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No longer good enough. > > We can get a press scare over a public vuln release, or a wake-up call. > > I think we can do better as an industry. > Who, then, rewrites all of the reference material? And doesn't any new definition simply become def

Re: [Full-disclosure] defining 0day

2007-09-25 Thread Brian Loe
On 9/25/07, Gadi Evron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay. I think we exhausted the different views, and maybe we are now able > to come to a conlusion on what we WANT 0day to mean. > > What do you, as professional, believe 0day should mean, regardless of > previous definitions? Seems to me that