Re: [Full-disclosure] 21 Million German bank accounts stolen - but accounts are still more secure than many other ones

2008-12-12 Thread Viktor Larionov
will difently start thinking on this. Regards, vik -Original Message- From: Martin Salfer [mailto:m...@soif.de] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 12:12 PM To: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk Cc: viktor.lario...@salva.ee Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] 21 Million German bank accounts stole

Re: [Full-disclosure] 21 Million German bank accounts stolen - but accounts are still more secure than many other ones

2008-12-12 Thread Martin Salfer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Dear vik, Nice to see that people from all over the world read and answer full-disclosure. :-) Yes, you're right. Those trojans that log and intercept data on the fly are really a pain for most online banking customers. Fortunately some banks ar

Re: [Full-disclosure] 21 Million German bank accounts stolen - but accounts are still more secure than many other ones

2008-12-11 Thread Viktor Larionov
grok.org.uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] 21 Million German bank accounts stolen - but accounts are still more secure than many other ones -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hello, English readers might wonder why Germans usually don't use cheques: because they're too ex

Re: [Full-disclosure] 21 Million German bank accounts stolen - but accounts are still more secure than many other ones

2008-12-11 Thread Martin Salfer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hello, English readers might wonder why Germans usually don't use cheques: because they're too expensive and insecure. Everybody prefers electronic money transfers ("Überweisung") as those are for free and well protected. And direct debits or PA

Re: [Full-disclosure] 21 Million German bank accounts stolen

2008-12-10 Thread James Matthews
Also money transfers are traceable I am guessing that they also have EC card data. On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Jost Krieger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 04:11:48PM +0200, James Matthews wrote: > > German banks are some of the oldest in the worl

Re: [Full-disclosure] 21 Million German bank accounts stolen

2008-12-10 Thread Jost Krieger
On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 04:11:48PM +0200, James Matthews wrote: > German banks are some of the oldest in the world. This is pretty scary > however it is also the reality of germanys new laws... I hope they find it > soon and protect the people that need to be protected > http://it.slashdot.org/it/0

Re: [Full-disclosure] 21 Million German bank accounts stolen

2008-12-09 Thread Some Guy Posting To Full Disclosure
To you or someone who knows anything about banks, fraud, and how they work and things. I have a German bank account. Should I do something!? On 12/9/08, James Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > German banks are some of the oldest in the world. This is pretty scary > however it is also the rea

Re: [Full-disclosure] 21 Million German bank accounts stolen

2008-12-09 Thread James Matthews
Contact your bank and ask them how they protect you against fraud. Get everything in writing. Then to be safe change everything (hoping that these people don't have continual access to the banks server so they pick up new accounts) Place a credit watch on your SCHUFA score and hope that the BND cat

[Full-disclosure] 21 Million German bank accounts stolen

2008-12-09 Thread James Matthews
German banks are some of the oldest in the world. This is pretty scary however it is also the reality of germanys new laws... I hope they find it soon and protect the people that need to be protected http://it.slashdot.org/it/08/12/09/0125201.shtml -- http://www.astorandblack.com/ ___