Re: [Full-disclosure] 70 million computers are using Windows 98 right now

2006-08-03 Thread wac
On 8/1/06, Eliah Kagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/27/06, wac wrote:> > >  Now, Linux is definitely not a natural migration pathway. That theory> of> > > adapting server oriented operating systems to the desktop, and believe> if > > > was going to be a succes has proven to be wrong.> >> > Reall

Re: [Full-disclosure] 70 million computers are using Windows 98 right now

2006-08-02 Thread Tonnerre Lombard
Salut, On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 15:00 -0400, Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: > Windows NT Workstation was in fact identical to Server - except with > intentional limiters placed within the registry to prevent admins from > avoiding purchasing the "full" server product. However, you could > hack it and ma

Re: [Full-disclosure] 70 million computers are using Windows 98 right now

2006-08-01 Thread Eliah Kagan
On 8/1/06, Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: Windows NT Workstation was in fact identical to Server - except with intentional limiters placed within the registry to prevent admins from avoiding purchasing the "full" server product. However, you could hack it and make it a "Server". Don't forget that

Re: [Full-disclosure] 70 million computers are using Windows 98 right now

2006-08-01 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
On 7/27/06, wac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There was Windows NT workstation ;). With windows was the other way. From desktop to server. Of course you can change Linux so much that it won't be Linux anymore. Definitely putting an X server on top of unix won't make it ready for desktop, that's a fa

Re: [Full-disclosure] 70 million computers are using Windows 98 right now

2006-08-01 Thread Eliah Kagan
On 7/27/06, wac wrote: > > Now, Linux is definitely not a natural migration pathway. That theory of > > adapting server oriented operating systems to the desktop, and believe if > > was going to be a succes has proven to be wrong. > > Really? Windows 2000, Windows XP, and Mac OS X seem to work p

Re: [Full-disclosure] 70 million computers are using Windows 98 right now

2006-07-26 Thread wac
On 7/26/06, Eliah Kagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Waldo--> It will run  everything  (almost) that runs on top of a win32> subsystem...(the top bar is higer actullay, it goes for native java, native> linux, native DOS, OS2 etc.. is a long list) and drivers as well, enought > for migration ;). Anywa

Re: [Full-disclosure] 70 million computers are using Windows 98 right now

2006-07-23 Thread Eliah Kagan
On 7/22/06, wac wrote: I would use ReactOS in that case ;) ---> www.reactos.com The alpha 0.3.0 rc1 is already there waiting for the download yep an alpha but then that is what win98 always was, a badly designed alpha putted on the market with rush to produce money at the expense of

Re: [Full-disclosure] 70 million computers are using Windows 98 right now

2006-07-22 Thread wac
On 7/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 13:28:08 -0300, Cardoso said:> but I agree. Let them die. 98 is a very unsafe plataform, hope the > spyware guys act fast and kill all the remaining machines, under a ton> of popups.And where does that leave the users?  Ha

Re: [Full-disclosure] 70 million computers are using Windows 98 right now

2006-07-13 Thread Tonnerre Lombard
Salut, On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 18:42 +0100, n3td3v wrote: > Microsoft could collapse under its own weight if a *major* unpatched > Microsoft Windows 98 vulnerability comes along. This is illusionary. Windows NT 4.0 was much more important as a product, and not much after support stopped, the whole

Re: [Full-disclosure] 70 million computers are using Windows 98 right now

2006-07-11 Thread n3td3v
Cardoso wrote:> Is it a hard mesure? Yes. Is it a high price to reduce the number of> zombie networks around the globe? No. I think the sypware guys will take> care of their own doom.   Who's doom though? You think insecure WIndows 98 boxen will only affect Windows 98 users? No, all users of Micros

Re: [Full-disclosure] 70 million computers are using Windows 98 right now

2006-07-11 Thread n3td3v
Larry Seltzer wrote:> Personally I doubt there are any Win98 systems out there connected to the> Internet that aren't already infected with something. The loss of support is> largely a moot issue.   Start worrying...   1. Windows XP 26521183(81%)2. Win 2000 2390336 (7%)3. Win 98 1579366 (4%)4. Mac

Re: [Full-disclosure] 70 million computers are using Windows 98 right now

2006-07-11 Thread Cardoso
Is it a hard mesure? Yes. Is it a high price to reduce the number of zombie networks around the globe? No. I think the sypware guys will take care of their own doom. Oh, firefox is jumping the wagon too. No 9x/me support to 3.0. Anyway, who said anything about XP? I don't think there's anythin

Re: [Full-disclosure] 70 million computers are using Windows 98 right now

2006-07-11 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 13:28:08 -0300, Cardoso said: > but I agree. Let them die. 98 is a very unsafe plataform, hope the > spyware guys act fast and kill all the remaining machines, under a ton > of popups. And where does that leave the users? Have you considered that maybe some of them are still u

Re: [Full-disclosure] 70 million computers are using Windows 98 right now

2006-07-11 Thread Cardoso
nt3 is such a drama queen... but I agree. Let them die. 98 is a very unsafe plataform, hope the spyware guys act fast and kill all the remaining machines, under a ton of popups. On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:42:45 +0100 n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: n> Today is the day Microsoft has stopped supp

[Full-disclosure] 70 million computers are using Windows 98 right now

2006-07-11 Thread n3td3v
Today is the day Microsoft has stopped support for Windows 98, including security updates.   Hackers are expected to take advantage of this to send a politcal message to Microsoft and focus on Windows 98 to give the operating system a final sending off on its way to the graveyard, as 70 million com