Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15 suspicion of rootkit (Alexandru Balan)

2012-07-12 Thread Григорий Братислава
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 1:11 PM, wrote: > There's a number of attacks using the MTRR and IOMMU to cause the CPU to have > a > different view of memory. It is indeed possible for something to be sitting > in > memory but not be visible to *you* (while still being visible to something > that >

Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15 suspicion of rootkit (Alexandru Balan)

2012-07-12 Thread valdis . kletnieks
On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:47:53 +0200, phocean said: > - Volatility: anything has to sit somehow in the memory, so there is no > way for it to escape from the analysis. There's a number of attacks using the MTRR and IOMMU to cause the CPU to have a different view of memory. It is indeed possible fo

Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15 suspicion of rootkit (Alexandru Balan)

2012-07-12 Thread phocean
Me is give up too ;) Thanks anyway. --- phocean Le 12 juil. 2012 à 19:07, Григорий Братислава a écrit : > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 1:02 PM, phocean <0...@phocean.net> wrote: >> Not sure if you are kidding. >> >> 1) WinDBG is a debugger, not really memory dump. >> 2) Not sure to understand* >> 3)

Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15 suspicion of rootkit (Alexandru Balan)

2012-07-12 Thread Григорий Братислава
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 1:02 PM, phocean <0...@phocean.net> wrote: > Not sure if you are kidding. > > 1) WinDBG is a debugger, not really memory dump. > 2) Not sure to understand* > 3) It is your opinion. > 4) Don't understand. Sounds like a joke, but even with that angle I don't > get it.* > > * I

Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15 suspicion of rootkit (Alexandru Balan)

2012-07-12 Thread phocean
Not sure if you are kidding. 1) WinDBG is a debugger, not really memory dump. 2) Not sure to understand* 3) It is your opinion. 4) Don't understand. Sounds like a joke, but even with that angle I don't get it.* * If only you stopped with this weird english. --- phocean Le 12 juil. 2012 à 18:5

Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15 suspicion of rootkit (Alexandru Balan)

2012-07-12 Thread Григорий Братислава
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:47 PM, phocean <0...@phocean.net> wrote: > Yes, maybe WinDbg… Not that I am confortable with WinDBG, but certainly a > good chance to learn and get more familiar. > > However: > > - Volatility: anything has to sit somehow in the memory, so there is no way > for it to esca

Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15 suspicion of rootkit (Alexandru Balan)

2012-07-12 Thread phocean
Yes, maybe WinDbg… Not that I am confortable with WinDBG, but certainly a good chance to learn and get more familiar. However: - Volatility: anything has to sit somehow in the memory, so there is no way for it to escape from the analysis. It has all advantages of offline analysis. I don't thin

Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15 suspicion of rootkit (Alexandru Balan)

2012-07-12 Thread Григорий Братислава
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:09 PM, phocean <0...@phocean.net> wrote: > Could you elaborate please? > What that I haven't done yet? If we agree there is nothing in the RAM dump, > how can we explain the artefacts? > > Musntlive, I never trust any antivirus. > > --- phocean 0x00: MusntLive will alway

Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15 suspicion of rootkit (Alexandru Balan)

2012-07-12 Thread phocean
Could you elaborate please? What that I haven't done yet? If we agree there is nothing in the RAM dump, how can we explain the artefacts? Musntlive, I never trust any antivirus. --- phocean Le 12 juil. 2012 à 17:46, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu a écrit : > On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:00:36 -0400, Григо

Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15 suspicion of rootkit (Alexandru Balan)

2012-07-12 Thread valdis . kletnieks
On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:00:36 -0400, Григорий Братислава said: > I just checked your machine for you. You are is safe. Stay thirsty my friend +1 pgp2fPfB2HtKf.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Char

Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15 suspicion of rootkit (Alexandru Balan)

2012-07-12 Thread Григорий Братислава
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:57 AM, phocean <0...@phocean.net> wrote: > The only antivirus I have tried so far is Microsoft Security Essentials. And > it finds nothing, which I certainly don't trust at all. > Especially because it shows a very unusual certificate alert during the > setup. > I also sca

Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15 suspicion of rootkit (Alexandru Balan)

2012-07-12 Thread Kurt Buff
A better way of proceeding on this, assuming you can afford the time, is to boot from of the many live boot CDs (UBCD4Win, BartPe, various Linux-based rescue disks) to scan the disk while the suspect OS is not in memory. Those CD images either come with, or can be caused to contain, various AV pack

Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15 suspicion of rootkit (Alexandru Balan)

2012-07-12 Thread phocean
The only antivirus I have tried so far is Microsoft Security Essentials. And it finds nothing, which I certainly don't trust at all. Especially because it shows a very unusual certificate alert during the setup. I also scanned a few files that I chose (some dll and services) on VirusTotal with no

Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15 suspicion of rootkit (Alexandru Balan)

2012-07-12 Thread Mikhail A. Utin
-Original Message- From: full-disclosure-boun...@lists.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure-boun...@lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of full-disclosure-requ...@lists.grok.org.uk Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 4:40 AM To: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk Subject: Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 8