Re: [Full-disclosure] High Value Target Selection

2007-12-06 Thread gmaggro
Really, how much trouble could we get in if we posted up a list of street addresses, each address being a building that contained significant telco and/or routing infrastructure? try it, it's amusing. remember the all the photogs getting hassled by the man for merely taking pictures of

Re: [Full-disclosure] High Value Target Selection

2007-12-03 Thread Vincent Archer
On Sun, 2007-12-02 at 06:24 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 23:13:31 EST, gmaggro said: Ah yes, I remember an old story not too dissimilar... multiple redundant lines, all severed at the same time with the same backhoe. Idiots. To be fair, it's often not idiots.

Re: [Full-disclosure] High Value Target Selection

2007-12-03 Thread reepex
you should destroy myspace.com after the downfall of and removal of myspace, many emo kids and future teenage moms will commit sucide saving the world from future jerry springer episodes and adding to the list of an heroes On 11/30/07, gmaggro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it'd be

Re: [Full-disclosure] High Value Target Selection

2007-12-01 Thread gmaggro
translation: let's discuss how to discern high degree and/or vulnerable nodes in critical infrastructure networks. Correct. 1. To bring like minded people together while operating under the strategy of 'leaderless resistance' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaderless_resistance) *yawn*

Re: [Full-disclosure] High Value Target Selection

2007-12-01 Thread gmaggro
Forgot to tack these onto the last post. The wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_communications_cable has some amusing links in it's reference section: http://www.telegeography.com/products/map_cable/images/sub_cable_2007_large.jpg

Re: [Full-disclosure] High Value Target Selection

2007-12-01 Thread coderman
On Dec 1, 2007 8:09 AM, gmaggro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Why not advocate? If you did get in trouble for this post, I don't think adding a caveat like of course not advocation would help you much, if at all. Like those quips in Phrack or Paladin Press books For educational purposes only.

Re: [Full-disclosure] High Value Target Selection

2007-12-01 Thread gmaggro
(in telco land, one SONET span over aerial transport and the other buried plant is considered sufficient path diversity/redundancy. never mind that the same right of way is used...) Ah yes, I remember an old story not too dissimilar... multiple redundant lines, all severed at the same time

Re: [Full-disclosure] High Value Target Selection

2007-12-01 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 23:13:31 EST, gmaggro said: Ah yes, I remember an old story not too dissimilar... multiple redundant lines, all severed at the same time with the same backhoe. Idiots. To be fair, it's often not idiots. First, you have to find 2 providers that can get fiber from point A to

Re: [Full-disclosure] High Value Target Selection

2007-11-30 Thread Peter Besenbruch
On Friday 30 November 2007 09:02:26 gmaggro wrote: I think it'd be interesting if we started a discussion on the selection of high value targets to be used in the staging of attacks that damage significant infrastructure. The end goals, ranked equal in importance, would be as follows: [big

[Full-disclosure] High Value Target Selection

2007-11-30 Thread gmaggro
I think it'd be interesting if we started a discussion on the selection of high value targets to be used in the staging of attacks that damage significant infrastructure. The end goals, ranked equal in importance, would be as follows: 1. To bring like minded people together while operating under

Re: [Full-disclosure] High Value Target Selection

2007-11-30 Thread coderman
On Nov 30, 2007 11:02 AM, gmaggro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it'd be interesting if we started a discussion on the selection of high value targets translation: let's discuss how to discern high degree and/or vulnerable nodes in critical infrastructure networks. 1. To bring like minded