Re: [Full-disclosure] Meet Kurt Greenbaum, Director of Social Media, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Reports commenter to employer.

2009-11-20 Thread Michael Holstein
> (Remember - in this case, contacting the school's network provider would > *not* have found the user, because the network provider just provides > a connection and bandwidth. Any login records/etc are at the *school*, > not the provider). > Vladis .. not sure about that school since it was

Re: [Full-disclosure] Meet Kurt Greenbaum, Director of Social Media, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Reports commenter to employer.

2009-11-20 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:42:08 +0100, netinfinity said: > necessary to submit the post. If this fails then you should conntact > the ISP of the "spammer" based on the IP. Unfortunately, that's exactly what *did* happen. Although for *home* users, the 'ISP' is the person to complain to, for organiz

Re: [Full-disclosure] Meet Kurt Greenbaum, Director of Social Media, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Reports commenter to employer.

2009-11-19 Thread Sam Haldorf
Feel free to share your feelings with Greenbaum's boss: Kevin Mowbray Phone: 314-340-8970 E-mail: kmowb...@post-dispatch.com --- mrx schrieb am Fr, 20.11.2009: Von: mrx Betreff: Re: [Full-disclosure] Meet Kurt Greenbaum, Director of Social Media, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Reports comment

Re: [Full-disclosure] Meet Kurt Greenbaum, Director of Social Media, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Reports commenter to employer.

2009-11-19 Thread netinfinity
Mr. Kurt Greenbaum made a mistake. Privacy violated, because there are other mechanism's like baninig the IP, email or whatever is necessary to submit the post. If this fails then you should conntact the ISP of the "spammer" based on the IP. -- netinfinity __

Re: [Full-disclosure] Meet Kurt Greenbaum, Director of Social Media, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Reports commenter to employer.

2009-11-19 Thread mrx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 No problem regarding the personal post, I have made the same mistake myself. I also see what you mean regarding the language of the privacy statement. "unauthorised use" could be interpreted as any use that has not been given explicit approval before

Re: [Full-disclosure] Meet Kurt Greenbaum, Director of Social Media, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Reports commenter to employer.

2009-11-19 Thread dramacrat
They're ORs, unfortunately. The language is unclear but it seems to be one of those infernal boilerplate pieces of shit that basically invalidate the assurances as to privacy. You could still probably press the suit. "Unauthorised use" has recently been defined and redefined, it's an evolving piec

Re: [Full-disclosure] Meet Kurt Greenbaum, Director of Social Media, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Reports commenter to employer.

2009-11-19 Thread mrx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Holstein wrote: >> What Greenbaum did was against the privacy policy of the site: >> > > You seem to be missing the part where the comment was removed (several > times) and re-posted. > > From : http://www.stltoday.com/help/privacy-policy >

Re: [Full-disclosure] Meet Kurt Greenbaum, Director of Social Media, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Reports commenter to employer.

2009-11-19 Thread Michael Holstein
> > What Greenbaum did was against the privacy policy of the site: > You seem to be missing the part where the comment was removed (several times) and re-posted. From : http://www.stltoday.com/help/privacy-policy "..to protect against misuse or unauthorized use of our web sites" Cheers, Mi

[Full-disclosure] Meet Kurt Greenbaum, Director of Social Media, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Reports commenter to employer.

2009-11-19 Thread Sam Haldorf
I smell a lawsuit coming on for our friend Greenbaum. "ReadWriteWeb has an article up today discussing an incident in which a school employee lost his job after leaving a comment on the website of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch newspaper. After the school employee responded to the newspaper's poll