Re: [Full-disclosure] OMIGOD CIQ HACKING THE WORLD.

2011-12-07 Thread Pablo Ximenes
Alright, let´s stop assuming things then. Anyhow, congrats for the great work. Nice chat, btw. Att, Pablo Ximenes 2011/12/7 Dan Rosenberg > On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Pablo Ximenes wrote: > > Hi, > > > > 2011/12/7 Dan Rosenberg > >> > >> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:09 AM, Pablo Ximenes

Re: [Full-disclosure] OMIGOD CIQ HACKING THE WORLD.

2011-12-07 Thread Dan Rosenberg
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Pablo Ximenes wrote: > Hi, > > 2011/12/7 Dan Rosenberg >> >> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:09 AM, Pablo Ximenes wrote: >> >> >> >> That's a good question.  As you've mentioned, the URL falls within the >> HTTP request, the entirety of which is protected by SSL.  So I

Re: [Full-disclosure] OMIGOD CIQ HACKING THE WORLD.

2011-12-07 Thread Pablo Ximenes
Hi, 2011/12/7 Dan Rosenberg > On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:09 AM, Pablo Ximenes wrote: > > > That's a good question. As you've mentioned, the URL falls within the > HTTP request, the entirety of which is protected by SSL. So I would > argue that the URL is content that should remain secret in an

Re: [Full-disclosure] OMIGOD CIQ HACKING THE WORLD.

2011-12-07 Thread Dan Rosenberg
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:09 AM, Pablo Ximenes wrote: > Hi, > > 2011/12/7 Dan Rosenberg >> >> And I was really hoping I wouldn't get dragged into another discussion >> on this... > > > Well, if it serves of any consolation, discussions are good for making > things more clear, I´d assume. Sorry, th

Re: [Full-disclosure] OMIGOD CIQ HACKING THE WORLD.

2011-12-07 Thread Pablo Ximenes
Hi, 2011/12/7 Dan Rosenberg > And I was really hoping I wouldn't get dragged into another discussion > on this... > Well, if it serves of any consolation, discussions are good for making things more clear, I´d assume. Sorry, though. > On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Pablo Ximenes wrote: >

Re: [Full-disclosure] OMIGOD CIQ HACKING THE WORLD.

2011-12-07 Thread Dan Rosenberg
And I was really hoping I wouldn't get dragged into another discussion on this... On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Pablo Ximenes wrote: > Hi All, > > Based on what I read from the post, basically Rosenberg recognises he has no > clue about what happens with the rest of affected phone models: > > "

Re: [Full-disclosure] OMIGOD CIQ HACKING THE WORLD.

2011-12-07 Thread Pablo Ximenes
Hi All, Based on what I read from the post, basically Rosenberg recognises he has no clue about what happens with the rest of affected phone models: * "One important thing to note is that this represents the metrics that are submitted to the CarrierIQ application by the code written by Samsung. T

Re: [Full-disclosure] OMIGOD CIQ HACKING THE WORLD.

2011-12-06 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Christian Sciberras wrote: > Or not... > > http://vulnfactory.org/blog/2011/12/05/carrieriq-the-real-story/ Just to play devil's advocate: this application has the potential to do a lot of harm. Should we treat it like 'location data' from the recent past? Recall t

Re: [Full-disclosure] OMIGOD CIQ HACKING THE WORLD.

2011-12-06 Thread Christian Sciberras
Uhm, pretty much any software entering your system has some potential to (being) wreck(ing) havoc, be whether it is an innocent gif file or a potentially backdoored exe. Still, that doesn't give me the right to shout at any software vendor baseless assumptions that simply damages its reputation. T

[Full-disclosure] OMIGOD CIQ HACKING THE WORLD.

2011-12-06 Thread Christian Sciberras
Or not... http://vulnfactory.org/blog/2011/12/05/carrieriq-the-real-story/ On the other hand, where that l33t hacker Drew (aka xD 0x41)? Thought he'd enlighten us with more of his awesome hacking powers on this issue. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in