Re: [Full-disclosure] Path to IT Security

2011-01-23 Thread Howdy Ho
Go for it any way you can. 15 years ago I had just began writing HTML and basic JavaScript and learning about computers. I really caught fire and could not get enough, I just kept learning on my own until one day a computer scientist I met decided I should come in for an interview for a info

Re: [Full-disclosure] Path to IT Security

2011-01-21 Thread Meadow
Another point of entry into IT (then to security) is through help desk positions. You start with mundane tier 1 support like routing tickets and password resets, but if you continue learning and demonstrate a good work ethic in the right company, you can be promoted. Study in your own time On

Re: [Full-disclosure] Path to IT Security

2011-01-20 Thread Marsh Ray
On 01/20/2011 02:19 PM, Robert Święcki wrote: > > As a side note, I really like comments to the > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CISSP - in > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Certified_Information_Systems_Security_Professional Thank you for that link. That was extremely instructive. It scares the

Re: [Full-disclosure] Path to IT Security

2011-01-20 Thread Robert Święcki
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] wrote: > Emmanuel, Can I also just say here, that being an expert in any area of IT > isn't about qualifications, it's a state of mind, a mentality. There a > thousand and thousands of people out there that call themselves "qualif

Re: [Full-disclosure] Path to IT Security

2011-01-20 Thread coderman
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:31 AM, wrote: > ... find a mentor, and start learning as much as you can ++ ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secu

Re: [Full-disclosure] Path to IT Security

2011-01-20 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 16:10:48 GMT, Emmanuel Apreko said: > After researching i found out that the most prestigious security certification > is the CISSP and it seems like a very long journey to it since i have no > experience in it at all but need to get my foot in. Since the CISSP requires 4 or 5

Re: [Full-disclosure] Path to IT Security

2011-01-20 Thread Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
Emmanuel, Can I also just say here, that being an expert in any area of IT isn't about qualifications, it's a state of mind, a mentality. There a thousand and thousands of people out there that call themselves "qualified professionals", and for 99% of them, that's all they will ever be. If you've g

Re: [Full-disclosure] Path to IT Security

2011-01-20 Thread Georgi Guninski
hi, to get an answer, how do you imagine your best case scenario for you in "the world of IT security (and/or) security professional"? basically describe your dreams on the matter to get an answer on this nice list. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 04:10:48PM +, Emmanuel Apreko wrote: > Hello All, >

Re: [Full-disclosure] Path to IT Security

2011-01-19 Thread Gary Baribault
Now that wasn't nice, funny, but not nice! Gary B On 01/19/2011 02:45 PM, Thor (Hammer of God) wrote: >> If you have no experience in IT at all, then you need to get a job in IT and >> begin to understand TCP/IP and networking. Until you understand those well, >> you can't begin to understand op

Re: [Full-disclosure] Path to IT Security

2011-01-19 Thread Thor (Hammer of God)
>If you have no experience in IT at all, then you need to get a job in IT and >begin to understand TCP/IP and networking. Until you understand those well, >you can't begin to understand operational security work. Wanted: non-IT professional with no experience at all to join IT team and get paid

Re: [Full-disclosure] Path to IT Security

2011-01-19 Thread Paul Schmehl
In order to get a CISSP you must have five years of direct full time experience in two or more of the ten security domains. So you would have to get hired to work in security *before* you could even test for the CISSP. You can reduce the requirement by one year if you have a college degree or

Re: [Full-disclosure] Path to IT Security

2011-01-18 Thread bk
On Jan 18, 2011, at 8:10 AM, Emmanuel Apreko wrote: > After researching i found out that the most prestigious security > certification is the CISSP and it seems like a very long journey to it since > i have no experience in it at all but need to get my foot in. Any certificate that is a based o

Re: [Full-disclosure] Path to IT Security

2011-01-18 Thread Gary Baribault
Well you're right about that all along the row .. I have all the certs and I'm not impressed with most of them, but if you want to get in the door, you better have the certs .. anyone who can memorize two or three books can get his CISSP or most other certs .. with a very few exceptions .. certs ar

Re: [Full-disclosure] Path to IT Security

2011-01-18 Thread Christian Sciberras
Let me tell you one thing, "pro" isn't about certifications, it's about years of experience (and maybe certifications). It doesn't matter how many certs you have if you've never touched a computer. It's quite unthinkable - but equally true - that some university graduates, which should be able to w

[Full-disclosure] Path to IT Security

2011-01-18 Thread Emmanuel Apreko
Hello All, I'm a newbie to this list and all i need is some guidance into the world of IT security. i have completed Comptia A+ and Network + and wish to pursue a career in security. After researching i found out that the most prestigious security certification is the CISSP and it seems like a