[Full-disclosure] Re: RSA SecurID SID800 Token vulnerable by design

2006-09-13 Thread Vin McLellan
On FD, and in several other security forums, Hadmut Danisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, a respected German information security analyst, recently published a harsh critique of one optional feature in the SID800, one of the newest of the six SecurID authentication tokens -- some with slightly differe

[Full-disclosure] Re: RSA SecurID SID800 Token vulnerable

2006-09-12 Thread Jeb Osama
In security it's always about raising that bar a bit more. You should be in the movies :)BojanThat's jan, Bo Jan ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http

Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: RSA SecurID SID800 Token vulnerable by design

2006-09-11 Thread Bojan Zdrnja
On 9/10/06, Lyal Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If there's malware on the machine, and there is a connected USB token, then authentication is only as good as the password - malware can probe the connected token as often as desired. Read my post again. That's not necessary true. The RSA SID8

[Full-disclosure] RE: RSA SecurID SID800 Token vulnerable by design

2006-09-11 Thread Gaidosch, Tamas
Based on your description I see this as a security design problem as well, but only exploitable if the user does a one-time password based logon while the token is plugged in. It would be inteteresting to know whether folks at RSA did a risk assessment when decided to implement this functionality.

[Full-disclosure] Re: RSA SecurID SID800 Token vulnerable by design

2006-09-10 Thread ArkanoiD
nuqneH, Well, they could have a hardware button on the token itself at least.. On Sat, Sep 09, 2006 at 01:41:55PM +0400, 3APA3A wrote: > Dear Hadmut Danisch, > > 2-factor authentication is not a way to protect against malware. > > SecurID authentication supports single sign-on technology.

Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: RSA SecurID SID800 Token vulnerable by design

2006-09-09 Thread Brian Eaton
On 9/9/06, Lyal Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If there's malware on the machine, and there is a connected USB token, then authentication is only as good as the password - malware can probe the connected token as often as desired. In theory, with trusted data paths everywhere (internal to

RE: [Full-disclosure] Re: RSA SecurID SID800 Token vulnerable by design

2006-09-09 Thread Lyal Collins
Lyal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bojan Zdrnja Sent: Sunday, 10 September 2006 8:51 AM To: 3APA3A Cc: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk; bugtraq@securityfocus.com Subject: [Full-disclosure] Re: RSA SecurID SID800 Token vulnerable by design O

[Full-disclosure] Re: RSA SecurID SID800 Token vulnerable by design

2006-09-09 Thread Bojan Zdrnja
On 9/9/06, 3APA3A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear Hadmut Danisch, 2-factor authentication is not a way to protect against malware. Well, it protects - the authentication process. SecurID authentication supports single sign-on technology. As a weak side of this technology, it means,

Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: RSA SecurID SID800 Token vulnerable by design

2006-09-09 Thread Brian Eaton
On 9/9/06, 3APA3A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The only additional attack factor this issue creates is attacker can get _physical_ access to console with user's credentials _any time_ while user is logged in, while in case token can not be red (e.g. it's not plugged to USB) he can only

[Full-disclosure] Re: RSA SecurID SID800 Token vulnerable by design

2006-09-09 Thread 3APA3A
Dear Hadmut Danisch, 2-factor authentication is not a way to protect against malware. SecurID authentication supports single sign-on technology. As a weak side of this technology, it means, if single account on any network host is compromised, this account is compromised in whole

[Full-disclosure] Re: RSA SecurID SID800 Token vulnerable by design

2006-09-08 Thread Bojan Zdrnja
On 9/8/06, Hadmut Danisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I recently tested an RSA SecurID SID800 Token http://www.rsasecurity.com/products/securid/datasheets/SID800_DS_0205.pdf The token is bundled with some windows software designed to make user's life easier. Interestingly, this software pro

[Full-disclosure] Re: RSA SecurID SID800 Token vulnerable by design

2006-09-08 Thread Matthew Leeds
You might want to look at: http://www.networksecurityarchive.org/html/Web-App-Sec/2005-02/msg00089.html for a discussion of this issue and the soft token issue. -- ---Matthew *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 9/7/2006 at 8:49 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Hi, > >I recently tes