[Full-disclosure] Re: SSL VPNs and security

2006-06-13 Thread Eloy Paris
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Michal, On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 10:48:18PM +0200, Michal Zalewski wrote: [...] > Commercial SSL VPNs are a fairly recent technology that has a > considerable appeal to various corporations. Because of its novelty, > however, in a typical setup

[Full-disclosure] Re: SSL VPNs and security

2006-06-09 Thread Amit Klein (AKsecurity)
On 8 Jun 2006 at 22:48, Michal Zalewski wrote: > "Web VPN" or "SSL VPN" is a term used to denote methods for accessing > company's internal applications with a bare WWW browser, with the use of > browser-based SSO authentication and SSL tunneling. As opposed to IPSec, > no additional software or c

[Full-disclosure] Re: SSL VPNs and security

2006-06-09 Thread wnorth
Very good information, we use F5 firepass products and I could see the same issue inherinet in your statements. The benefits to the business, from a cost perspective, are many, no need for tokens unless you are doing 2-factor auth, which I encourage as it will check your personal PIN against you

[Full-disclosure] Re: SSL VPNs and security

2006-06-09 Thread E Mintz
I agree on your point that the technology requires PROPER design. Vendors who miss the basics should lose their right to play the game. On 6/9/06, Michal Zalewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, E Mintz wrote: > How about some real-world, application specific exploits? There's

[Full-disclosure] Re: SSL VPNs and security

2006-06-09 Thread E Mintz
How about some real-world, application specific exploits? SSL VPN is hardly a 'novelty' or 'recent' technology. I implemented my first SSL VPN in '99 at a large financial, and it is still in production, and secure So, please show me an example of an actual compromise and I'll listen. Otherwise,

[Full-disclosure] Re: SSL VPNs and security

2006-06-08 Thread Michal Zalewski
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, E Mintz wrote: > How about some real-world, application specific exploits? There's an example of a XSS that can be used to compromise Cisco Web VPN session in the text. > So, please show me an example of an actual compromise and I'll listen. > Otherwise, put up, or shut up!