[Full-disclosure] Sasser or other nasty worm needed

2006-11-27 Thread kikazz
I'm a high school network administration teacher looking for a creative means of teaching my students the importance of patch management. I was hoping to let a particularly nasty worm loose on a closed lab so my students could see what happens during an outbreak, but I'm running into a hitch - I

Re: [Full-disclosure] Sasser or other nasty worm needed

2006-11-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chris - I don't know what to make of your please reply off-list; I'm not a member comment. It's almost as ridiculous as what you are requesting. If I take your question at face value, you are an INSTRUCTOR, not an Admin. That means you probably teach an A+ class, maybe an abbreviated CCNA

Re: [Full-disclosure] Sasser or other nasty worm needed

2006-11-27 Thread Michael Holstein
Does anyone have a copy of Sasser or a similar worm that they would be willing to send or link me to? Please contact me off-list. I would be happy to verify my identity as a high school teacher off-list as I'm sure that is a concern for most anyone who has what I am looking for. You're

Re: [Full-disclosure] Sasser or other nasty worm needed

2006-11-27 Thread deep fried
What am I Consultant? School Teacher? Terrorist? On 11/27/06, K F (lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dude... settle the hell down. I see little problem with this guy doing this on a closed LAN in a lab setting. What part of CLOSED LAB did you miss? Its not like he is intentionally letting

Re: [Full-disclosure] Sasser or other nasty worm needed

2006-11-27 Thread K F (lists)
a douchebag? I dunno but why the hell aren't your boxes patched to Sasser yet? -KF deep fried wrote: What am I Consultant? School Teacher? Terrorist? On 11/27/06, *K F (lists)* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dude... settle the hell down. I

Re: [Full-disclosure] Sasser or other nasty worm needed

2006-11-27 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:36:39 EST, K F (lists) said: Dude... settle the hell down. I see little problem with this guy doing this on a closed LAN in a lab setting. What part of CLOSED LAB did you miss? Its not like he is intentionally letting it loose on the entire school LAN. You would

Re: [Full-disclosure] Sasser or other nasty worm needed

2006-11-27 Thread Peter Dawson
On 11/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And yet he's not clued enough to know how to find a copy of Sasser by himself. There are a lot of people who are of the opinion that if you have to ask where to find a copy of Sasser, you're not clued enough to be trusted with a copy.

Re: [Full-disclosure] Sasser or other nasty worm needed

2006-11-27 Thread Octal
Well if it's an air gapped network then there's no way to get patches unless you carry them over on a disk. When I taught a class at a local university we did a similar experiment on an unpatched air gapped network. On 11/27/06, K F (lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a douchebag? I dunno but

Re: [Full-disclosure] Sasser or other nasty worm needed

2006-11-27 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:31:04 CST, Octal said: Well if it's an air gapped network then there's no way to get patches unless you carry them over on a disk. When I taught a class at a local university we did a similar experiment on an unpatched air gapped network. I've seen this done lots of

Re: [Full-disclosure] Sasser or other nasty worm needed

2006-11-27 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 17:16:31 EST, Rick said: On Mon, 27 Nov 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You would have us believe that the guy is clued enough to run a closed lab without screwing up (and there's *lots* of ways to screw up, starting with forgetting to wipe the drives afterwards,

Re: [Full-disclosure] Sasser or other nasty worm needed

2006-11-27 Thread Rick
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You would have us believe that the guy is clued enough to run a closed lab without screwing up (and there's *lots* of ways to screw up, starting with forgetting to wipe the drives afterwards, forgetting to disable a wireless card, forgetting to

Re: [Full-disclosure] Sasser or other nasty worm needed

2006-11-27 Thread Peter Dawson
I doubt schools have CLOSED LAB. I would like to know where the budget comes from, for this type of network. If so , then every school district board needs one.. :)- On 11/27/06, K F (lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dude... settle the hell down. I see little problem with this guy doing

Re: [Full-disclosure] Sasser or other nasty worm needed

2006-11-27 Thread Rick
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006, Peter Dawson wrote: I doubt schools have CLOSED LAB. I would like to know where the budget comes from, for this type of network. If so , then every school district board needs one.. :)- some do. schools partnered with, or using the curriculum of the Center for System

Re: [Full-disclosure] Sasser or other nasty worm needed

2006-11-27 Thread Rick
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so when you go to mcdonalds and hand over your $5 for your MCbig meal, do you consider the repercussions of supporting an industry which pays low wages, is under-staffed, and promotes world-hunger by using enough grain to feed a continent, etc...?

Re: [Full-disclosure] Sasser or other nasty worm needed

2006-11-27 Thread chedder1
Yeah, old computers at schools are often given away for recycling. On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 10:42:14PM -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: What budget? Every school that would have a networking class also has obsolete computers. Take a dozen, reformat them, put on an unpatched version of Windows,