Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows

2006-01-18 Thread bkfsec
J.A. Terranson wrote: (1) I do have something useful to say. The exact same thing every other security conscious person is saying: No source? An exe? Bad newss Publicly released tools are only safely released through open source (or, full disclosure if you prefer).

Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows

2006-01-17 Thread Jason Coombs
J.A. Terranson wrote: An exe? No source??? Just setup.exe Are you crazy? That's the way Microsoft does it, and you've got your trusty Anti-Virus software to protect you, right? So what's the problem? ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.

Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows

2006-01-17 Thread GroundZero Security
AM Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows Hi, GroundZero Security wrote: New version of GroundZero Secure Delete which also supports securely wiping of Free Space on a Device, has been released! A free trial can be downloaded here: GTi

Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows

2006-01-17 Thread GroundZero Security
to say, then why dont you stfu. - Original Message - From: J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: GroundZero Security [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 5:56 AM Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows On Mon, 16 Jan

Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows

2006-01-17 Thread Yvan Boily
Now for the lesson on business communication: 1. Dealing with open source proponents: also not everyone posts their source so what is your fucking problem?! 2. Elliciting positive feedback: my god if you dont have anything usefull to say, then why dont you stfu. 3. Commenting on community

Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows

2006-01-17 Thread Michael Holstein
An exe? No source??? Just setup.exe Are you crazy? Or .. get GNU coreutils for windows : http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/coreutils.htm and just use 'shred'. (although 'man shred' specifically makes note about journaled filesystems -- which NTFS is. I have not forensically

Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows

2006-01-17 Thread Yvan Boily
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows Now for the lesson on business communication: 1. Dealing with open source proponents: also not everyone posts

Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows

2006-01-17 Thread sk
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows Now for the lesson on business communication: 1. Dealing with open source proponents: also not everyone posts their source so what is your fucking

RE: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows

2006-01-17 Thread y0himba
: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:06 PM To: sk Cc: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows On 1/17/06, sk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thank you for the constructive feedback. at least it was usefull and not just some random flame. i do appriciate your comment

Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows

2006-01-17 Thread Jason Coombs
sk wrote: thank you for the constructive feedback. at least it was usefull People who install software on their computers and connect them to networks then receive and process incoming data with those computers and said software do not want security, we just want full disclosure of the

Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows

2006-01-17 Thread GroundZero Security
@lists.grok.org.uk Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows An exe? No source??? Just setup.exe Are you crazy? Or .. get GNU coreutils for windows : http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/coreutils.htm and just use 'shred'. (although

Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows

2006-01-17 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:12:38 +0100, GroundZero Security said: Our application has not only the DOD wiping standard, but also peter gutmanns algorythm with 38 random overwrites, which is the most secure wiping methode we know of. Or as Peter Gutmann says himself: In the time since this

Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows

2006-01-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
a friendly response. - Original Message - From: Yvan Boily [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: GroundZero Security [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows Now

Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows

2006-01-17 Thread greybrimstone
-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows An exe? No source??? Just setup.exe Are you crazy? Or .. get GNU coreutils for windows : http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/coreutils.htm and just use 'shred

Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows

2006-01-17 Thread GroundZero Security
People who install software on their computers and connect them to networks then receive and process incoming data with those computers and said software do not want security, we just want full disclosure of the risks that we expose ourselves to by engaging in such unsafe behavior. why do

Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows

2006-01-17 Thread GroundZero Security
: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 it's against the charter true but it's tolerated because you arent the first to promote your tool and you won't be the last, idefense, immunity , cirt.dk

Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows

2006-01-17 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, 0x7f wrote: not everything is open source you know :-P its not like that its an exploit or something. And the user is supposed to know this...how? it seems suddenly after this n3td0rk shit, everyone starts his own little flame wars over nothing. calm down people i

Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows

2006-01-17 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Jason Coombs wrote: J.A. Terranson wrote: An exe? No source??? Just setup.exe Are you crazy? That's the way Microsoft does it, Look at my headers Jason :-) or $ uname -a FreeBSD home.mfn.org 4.10-RELEASE and you've got your trusty Anti-Virus

Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows

2006-01-17 Thread Jason Coombs
GroundZero Security wrote: why do people run firewalls,IDS or Anti Virus ? no they dont care about security, they just want to know whats the name of the virus that just hit their box, or see who may just be accessing their system as obviously noone is trying to be secure. you really made me

[Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows

2006-01-16 Thread GroundZero Security
New version of GroundZero Secure Delete which also supports securely wiping of Free Space on a Device, has been released! A free trial can be downloaded here: http://www.groundzero-security.com/software/g0-SecureDelete-Trial.zip regards, GroundZero Security Research and Software Development

Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows

2006-01-16 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, GroundZero Security wrote: New version of GroundZero Secure Delete which also supports securely wiping of Free Space on a Device, has been released! A free trial can be downloaded here: http://www.groundzero-security.com/software/g0-SecureDelete-Trial.zip An exe? No

Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows

2006-01-16 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:56:22 CST, J.A. Terranson said: On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, GroundZero Security wrote: New version of GroundZero Secure Delete which also supports securely wiping An exe? No source??? Just setup.exe Are you crazy? Setup.exe and no source. Not crazy - Ground Zero

Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows

2006-01-16 Thread virus
Hi, GroundZero Security wrote: New version of GroundZero Secure Delete which also supports securely wiping of Free Space on a Device, has been released! A free trial can be downloaded here: from the list charter: Gratuitous advertisement, product placement, or self-promotion is forbidden.