Re: [Full-disclosure] Security as an Enabler - Virtual Trust: An Open Challenge to All InfoSec Professionals

2006-09-29 Thread imipak
Kenneth F. Belva wrote: > How creative are you in arguing for and against the VT theory as well as > envisioning the impact? > How creative would you like us to be? /i -- And what exactly is a dream? And what exactly is a joke? - Syd Barrett _

Re: [Full-disclosure] Security as an Enabler - Virtual Trust: An Open Challenge to All InfoSec Professionals

2006-09-28 Thread Kenneth F. Belva
Glenn, Thanks for your reply. My response: Most of your argument below does not get to the heart of the issue. It seems to be an issue of semantics. You do not like the term Virtual Trust. You write: >Many of us have argued for at least decades now that more trustworthy systems and >more trustw

[Full-disclosure] Security as an Enabler - Virtual Trust: An Open Challenge to All InfoSec Professionals

2006-09-28 Thread Kenneth F. Belva
DaveK, >> I've been defending Virtual Trust as an enabler for the past three >> days on the full-disclosure list. So far, fairly successfully. > An enabler *of* anything in particular? Or just some kind of magic >enabling pixie dust, good for all purposes? An enabler of business. >> Here's th

Re: [Full-disclosure] Security as an Enabler - Virtual Trust: An Open Challenge to All InfoSec Professionals

2006-09-28 Thread Dave \"No, not that one\" Korn
Kenneth F. Belva wrote: > I've been defending Virtual Trust as an enabler for the past three > days on the full-disclosure list. So far, fairly successfully. An enabler *of* anything in particular? Or just some kind of magic enabling pixie dust, good for all purposes? > Here's the challenge:

[Full-disclosure] Security as an Enabler - Virtual Trust: An Open Challenge to All InfoSec Professionals

2006-09-28 Thread Kenneth F. Belva
I've been defending Virtual Trust as an enabler for the past three days on the full-disclosure list. So far, fairly successfully. Here's the challenge: How creative are you *for* VT, *against* VT and determining the *impact* of VT? Here's your chance to figure out what works and what doesn't wi