Hi,
Florian Echtler さんは書きました:
> Just to make myself clear: I don't think it is a viable option to create
> email noise, I just pointed out that it makes more sense than TCP/HTTP
> noise.
There is already enough email noise thanks to spam. It might make sense
to reply to some of it though, to cre
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*gigantic snip*
Besides the discussion about Germany etc have a short peek at GB (GB is
also in the EU, thus drifting in the same fascist direction as Germany):
Animal rights activist hit with RIPA key decrypt demand
http://www.theregister.co.uk/200
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Hello Rakesh,
> 2. Even if,
> > So it wouldn't make much sense to create connection noise on a TCP or
> > HTTP basis, as this stuff isn't logged. I think one should rather
> > concentrate on generating email noise in this regard.
> So the FD trolls are protecting us from the surveillance state(s)? Eat
> your heart out, Robert
Dear Paul and Timo,
(I am responding to separate mails from both of you. Please forgive me for
overlapping)
Thanks for your maturity of thought and respecting other's opinion. This is
the essential essence of any democracy. We agree to disagree on some issues;
And agree of others. Today, we may di
Florian Echtler wrote:
> So it wouldn't make much sense to create connection noise on a TCP or
> HTTP basis, as this stuff isn't logged. I think one should rather
> concentrate on generating email noise in this regard.
>
So the FD trolls are protecting us from the surveillance state(s)? Eat
your
Hello Rakesh,
> 2. Even if, it is there, it is for Public good. It is to protect you against
> terrorism. Yes, this amounts to big brother is watching, but many times,
> that is essential. Remember USA 9/11/2001, London 7/7/2006, India (many many
> incidents). Have trust in your government. I beli
> Paul,
>
> 1. As I understand, the monitoring is not as wide as you described.
>
> 2. Even if, it is there, it is for Public good. It is to protect you
> against
> terrorism.
What terrorism? There was not a *single* death caused by 'terrorists'
in Germany for about thirty years now.
There wer
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:28:49 +0530, Sysman said:
> 2. Even if, it is there, it is for Public good. It is to protect you against
> terrorism. Yes, this amounts to big brother is watching, but many times,
> that is essential. Remember USA 9/11/2001, London 7/7/2006, India (many many
> incidents). Ha
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Rakesh,
even though I do not share your opinion, I still respect it and thank
you for telling me about it. People having different opinions is what
makes life interesting.
To answer your question:
Gemany (at least east Germany) has a history of dat
Paul,
1. As I understand, the monitoring is not as wide as you described.
2. Even if, it is there, it is for Public good. It is to protect you against
terrorism. Yes, this amounts to big brother is watching, but many times,
that is essential. Remember USA 9/11/2001, London 7/7/2006, India (many m
On Nov 10, 2007, at 9:28 AM, Paul Sebastian Ziegler wrote:
> The mechanism is quite easy: It searches Google for random words and
> picks random pages among the results, then spiders from there (well it
> is spidering except that it only follows one URL at a time within a
> session thus simulatin
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Paul Sebastian Ziegler wrote:
> > Dear Infosec community,
> >
> > as most of you may have heard the German government passed a law today
> > that will lead to all connections being logged for 6 months. This
> > includes phone calls as well as all inter
On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 22:45 +0100, LT wrote:
> According to [1], Internet Service Providers must record the
> following information:
> 1) the IP address assigned to the customer
> 2) a precise identification of the (dial-in) port that is used for
> internet access (i.e. your phone number, customer
> I'm also from Germany, but I do not agree with your understanding
> of the new law.
I share your understanding. And I must agree that my formulations
regarding this should have been more clear. In the blog-entry it says
"This includes assigned IP addresses as well as telephone calls."
And no,
Dear Paul,
> as most of you may have heard the German government passed a law
today
> that will lead to all connections being logged for 6 months. This
> includes phone calls as well as all internet connections.
I'm also from Germany, but I do not agree with your understanding
of the new law.
> How would this help with stored phone calls? How would this
> help with the general problem?
You are right to notice: It doesn't help with the calls at all.
> While I think it is nice that you think about doing
> something against this I don't really like your idea since
> you totally miss t
Hi Paul,
* Paul Sebastian Ziegler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-11-10 18:33]:
> as most of you may have heard the German government passed a law today
> that will lead to all connections being logged for 6 months. This
> includes phone calls as well as all internet connections.
[...]
> The mechanism i
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Dear Infosec community,
as most of you may have heard the German government passed a law today
that will lead to all connections being logged for 6 months. This
includes phone calls as well as all internet connections.
This is madness for various a
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