Re: [Full-disclosure] Supporters urge halt to, hacker's, extradition to US

2008-09-30 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:44:22 BST, Kyrian said: A message left by him on a system: Changing the /etc/motd file or equivalent is hardly costly, and hardly massive damage, no? Hypothetically speaking, if I wanted to do as little damage as possible and make someone get the message I'd

Re: [Full-disclosure] Supporters urge halt to, hacker's, extradition to US

2008-09-30 Thread Brian Anderson
n3td3v wrote: The systems were 'public domain' because the door was open. So if I wait outside your door, when you open it, everything inside becomes public domain -- * Brian L. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

Re: [Full-disclosure] Supporters urge halt to, hacker's, extradition to US

2008-09-30 Thread n3td3v
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Brian Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: n3td3v wrote: The systems were 'public domain' because the door was open. So if I wait outside your door, when you open it, everything inside becomes public domain All im saying is the guy didn't break into

Re: [Full-disclosure] Supporters urge halt to, hacker's, extradition to US

2008-09-30 Thread Ed Carp
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 4:50 PM, n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you can walk into a public building unchallenged, you keep walking in. Its not the person's fault, especially if they have mental problems which Mckinnon has. If you're an internet robot working for the intelligence services,

Re: [Full-disclosure] Supporters urge halt to, hacker's, extradition to US

2008-09-30 Thread n3td3v
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 12:58 AM, Ed Carp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 4:50 PM, n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you can walk into a public building unchallenged, you keep walking in. Its not the person's fault, especially if they have mental problems which Mckinnon has.

Re: [Full-disclosure] Supporters urge halt to, hacker's, extradition to US

2008-09-30 Thread Ed Carp
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:25 PM, n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He is a bumble bee, a useless fucking bumble bee. Why don't you get him psychiatric help instead of sending him to U.S and locking him up? Surely the guy needs help, not a jail sentence? I'm leaving this thread now I can't be

Re: [Full-disclosure] Supporters urge halt to, hacker's, extradition to US

2008-09-30 Thread Buhrmaster, Gary
He isn't particularly evil, he seen the door was open and thought, hell why not, big super power!!! They basically had the welcome mat laid out for him, with goodies inside, someone might liken it to a honey trap. Perhaps during the trial, Gary McKinnon's lawyer should put n3td3v on the

Re: [Full-disclosure] Supporters urge halt to, hacker's, extradition to US

2008-09-30 Thread n3td3v
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 1:31 AM, Ed Carp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:25 PM, n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He is a bumble bee, a useless fucking bumble bee. Why don't you get him psychiatric help instead of sending him to U.S and locking him up? Surely the guy needs

Re: [Full-disclosure] Supporters urge halt to, hacker's, extradition to US

2008-09-30 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 01:25:35 BST, n3td3v said: He is a bumble bee, a useless fucking bumble bee. Why don't you get him psychiatric help instead of sending him to U.S and locking him up? Physician, heal thyself. pgpz6lziP3Rew.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Full-disclosure] Supporters urge halt to, hacker's, extradition to US

2008-09-29 Thread Kyrian
Folks, Thanks to Exibar for the (likely) clarification. No issue in converting from metric, incidentally ;-) I will check out the links you provided this evening and make up my own mind. As stated, I did go to the thing, but wasn't shouting at chanting, because I felt something was certainly

Re: [Full-disclosure] Supporters urge halt to, hacker's, extradition to US

2008-09-29 Thread n3td3v
I just think someone from the military should be in the dock as well!!! This wasn't a one sided security incident, sloppy admins were involved in the 'threat to national security' that Gary Mckinnon supposedly posed. The passwords on the systems weren't set, if it wasn't Gary Mckinnon it was

Re: [Full-disclosure] Supporters urge halt to, hacker's, extradition to US

2008-09-29 Thread Kyrian
Further to Exibar's previous email, now I've been through the links that worked (one seemed to have been 8.3 truncated)... There does seem to be a substantial lets say pro-american-hacker bias in the text of the pages you provided links for. McKinnon did cause damage: The charges say he

Re: [Full-disclosure] Supporters urge halt to hacker's, extradition to US

2008-09-28 Thread Kyrian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: American officials involved in this case have stated that they want to see him 'fry'.-- BBC. [IANAL, correct me if I'm wrong, etc, but...] Yes, that's a large part of the problem. That courts *can* be bought (usually indirectly via already-bought officials, or

Re: [Full-disclosure] Supporters urge halt to hacker's extradition to US

2008-09-26 Thread n3td3v
I hope many London-based folks can make it along to the US embassy in London on Sunday. All the best, n3td3v On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 5:25 PM, newsgroup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Campaigners are due to protest against the extradition outside the US embassy in London on Sunday.

Re: [Full-disclosure] Supporters urge halt to hacker's extradition to US

2008-09-26 Thread James Matthews
Much luck! I only see one issue. Embassy staff take as many vacations as possible (Holidays of both country's you know this if you ever needed them!!) I still hope the issue gets across! On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:54 AM, n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope many London-based folks can make it

Re: [Full-disclosure] Supporters urge halt to hacker's extradition to US

2008-09-26 Thread n3td3v
I feel really sorry for him, he has been extremely unlucky with cyber law changes, etc. I don't believe he is fundamentally evil, he was misguided and stupid. I hope he gets a good turn out on Sunday anyway. Good luck Gary!!! On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:24 PM, James Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED]