Re: [Full-disclosure] The real motivations of vulnerability disclosure

2007-10-03 Thread worried security
If you read my version of the life cycle of a hacker you would know you were talking bollocks. n3td3v has nothing to do with gobbles or any other group you mentioned. n3td3v is apart from them. n3td3v is different from all those others. so don't bring those names into my own agenda of defining the

Re: [Full-disclosure] The real motivations of vulnerability disclosure

2007-10-03 Thread endrazine
Hello FD readers, I don't usually answer non technical posts, but I feel like explaining why I believe the ideas expressed by Mr Frogs and similar underground orthodoxes are clueless. "Mr Frog" : To summarize your thesis : ppl disclose vulnerabilities for fame & profit. "That's not how real hacke

Re: [Full-disclosure] The real motivations of vulnerability disclosure

2007-10-03 Thread worried security
new-bie - hangs around web based chat: yahoo chat, msn chat. watches what hackers are doing, hangs about with them to befriend them and gain intelligence on how they hack, and ask for the tools from the people who make them to hack a few yahoo or msn accounts for themselves. while this isn't true h

[Full-disclosure] The real motivations of vulnerability disclosure

2007-10-02 Thread Mr Frog
For the past 10 years when a vulnerability in a major site is discovered people freak out. I'm not debating the importance of certain site vulnerabilities such as those exposing personal or account information. I'm going to talk about one of those things people think, but don't speak publicly about