Re: [Full-disclosure] agreed certs dont mean that much..but need experience..

2005-12-08 Thread Kerry Thompson
On Thu, 2005-12-08 at 19:28 -0800, Joel Jose wrote: > > ok. so i must now concentrate on getting a vedor certificate. here in > my place cisco is a very popular one especially in learning centers. > they have a ccna and ccnp as the most popular ones. for me.. as a > aspiring security profesional w

Re: [Full-disclosure] agreed certs dont mean that much..but need experience..

2005-12-08 Thread Mike Klein
Go for as many as you can acquire without spending your own money. I don't think I'd want to list 100 certifications on my resume however...this would seem a little strange and might raise some red flags of another sort. No...they don't really mean you're smart...just that you can pass a test.

Re: [Full-disclosure] agreed certs dont mean that much..but need experience..

2005-12-08 Thread Joel Jose
ok. so i must now concentrate on getting a vedor certificate. here in my place cisco is a very popular one especially in learning centers. they have a ccna and ccnp as the most popular ones. for me.. as a aspiring security profesional will ccnp be a valid choice?.. or should i go in for a ccsp? ___

Re: [Full-disclosure] agreed certs dont mean that much..but need experience..

2005-12-07 Thread Kerry Thompson
Joel Jose said: > well agreed but then we cant get experience without a job. and to get a > job > you need qualifications ..so certificates are supposed to give that to > you.. > good ones like cissp demand that you have working experience as a pre > requisite. so is there any good certs for starti

Re: [Full-disclosure] agreed certs dont mean that much..but need experience..

2005-12-07 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Joel Jose wrote: > good ones like cissp demand that you have working experience as a pre > requisite. My guess is that the vast majority of cissp's do NOT have the prerequisite when they get their cert - and the certifying authority KNOWS THIS WHEN THEY ISSUE ! So, do what ev

[Full-disclosure] agreed certs dont mean that much..but need experience..

2005-12-07 Thread Joel Jose
well agreed but then we cant get experience without a job. and to get a job you need qualifications ..so certificates are supposed to give that to you.. good ones like cissp demand that you have working experience as a pre requisite. so is there any good certs for starting as a security professiona